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March 25, 2010, 14:37 
Possible bug (limitation?) in setValues

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Hello,
in trying to use setValues to exclude cells were the momentum equation is not defined (rho ~ 0) from the matrix, I found a potential bug/limitation (if I didn't do anything wrong in my code ). Let's assume the momentum equation is in the compressible form, and I want to exclude cells were rho < SMALL. I loop to identify those cells: Code:
labelHashSet doNotSolveMomentum; forAll(rho, cellI) { if (rho[cellI] <= 1.0e6) { doNotSolveMomentum.insert(cellI); } } Code:
labelList noMomentumCellLabels = doNotSolveMomentum.toc(); vectorField fixedU (noMomentumCellLabels.size()); forAll(fixedU, cellI) { fixedU[cellI] = vector(0.0, 0.0, 0.0); } UEqn.setValues(noMomentumCellLabels, fixedU); Code:
myA = UEqn.A(); forAll(rho,i) { if (rho[i] < 1.0e6) { Info << "rho = " << rho[i] << " A = " << myA[i] << endl; } } Is this the expected behaviour of setValues? Shouldn't A be set to 1 in those cells, so that the equation actually degenerates in U = myValue? Best,
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March 26, 2010, 04:16 

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setValues currently does not reset the diagonal, it uses the value the matrix provides to set the value.
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March 26, 2010, 05:29 

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Hi Alberto,
You cannot just go in and change the diagonal value to 1 because the order of magnitude of other terms in the matrix is unknown: other diagonals can be anything betwees, say 1e10 and 1e10, depending what you're solving. If you give the diagonal of a wrong order of magnitude, it will change matrix normalization and that makes the solver behave in unexpected ways. I had this trouble with the FEM solvers a long time ago and the solution was to leave the diagonal as is. How come you have a zero diagonal in the first place? Can you estimate the size of the diagonal coefficient, eg. cell volume/delta t? Hope this helps, Hrv
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March 26, 2010, 12:04 

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Thanks to both of you for your replies.
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At the moment I am using a flag to set up the fvMatrix, doing something like Code:
fvVectorMatrix UEqn ( solveMomentum* ( fvm::ddt(...). + ... ) + doNotSolveMomentum* ( fvm::Sp(Uunits,U) ) ) Best,
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March 26, 2010, 20:45 

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I forgot to answer to one point: in my case both the cell volume and the time step are usually constant (static mesh, fixed dt), so their ratio is known.
Best,
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