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pbryant March 1, 2011 19:31

Herschel-Bulkley non-Newtonian viscosity model has term with sign error
 
The Herschel-Bulkley (HB) non-Newtonian viscosity model in OpenFOAM contains a term with a sign error. Outside of CFD, the HB model usually consists of a yield stress tao_y below which the shear rate sr is exactly zero, sr=0, and above which the stress tao is equal to tao_y plus a simple power law function of the shear rate, tao = tao_y + k*sr^n. The model in OpenFOAM allows for a transition to Newtonian behavior when the shear rate is very low, thereby eliminating the undesirable discontinuity in the function at zero stress. The Newtonian viscosity is nu0, and the transition occurs when the stress exceeds the threshold value given by the parameter tao0. Assuming that nu0 is not infinity, tao_y and tao0 are not the same but one can be calculated from the other by matching the Newtonian and non-Newtonian forms at the transition point resulting in: tao_y = tao0 - k*(tao0/nu0)^n. This correction to tao0 can be found in the source code for the HS model but INCORRECTLY with a plus sign rather than the minus sign in front of the k. In the code from the file HerschelBulkley.C, the model gives the effective viscosity nu by dividing the above expression for tao by a factor of sr:

return (min(nu0_,(tau0_ + k_* rtone *( pow(tone * sr(), n_)
+ pow(tone*tau0_/nu0_,n_))) / (max(sr(), dimensionedScalar
("VSMALL", dimless/dimTime, VSMALL)))));

Note that the stress and viscosity are both given in kinematic form (i.e. divided by the density). The factors tone and rtone are both equal to unity but have dimensions of time and inverse time and are included to get the units correct for the result.

The CORRECTED VERSION with the sign change is:

return (min(nu0_,(tau0_ + k_* rtone *( pow(tone * sr(), n_)
- pow(tone*tau0_/nu0_,n_))) / (max(sr(), dimensionedScalar
("VSMALL", dimless/dimTime, VSMALL)))));


Note that when sr=tao0/nu0, the two pow() functions will now cancel out and give the expected result nu=tao0/sr. Without the indicated sign correction, tao0 has no obvious physical interpretation, as it is neither the stress at the transition point between the two forms nor is it the stress that would occur if the power law form was used as the shear rate approaches zero. The correction will have little effect in cases when the value of nu0 is set to a very large value to approximate infinity.

AlmostSurelyRob May 6, 2011 06:46

This is just to say: you're absolutely right! Thanks for sharing.

alberto May 7, 2011 02:58

FYI, this was fixed some time ago: http://www.openfoam.com/mantisbt/view.php?id=153

vonboett November 4, 2011 05:01

Herschel-Bulkley validation
 
It seems like the Herschel-Bulkley viscosity model gets more and more applied in OpenFOAM. Did somebody already run a validation test case to compare the OpenFOAM implementation with the results of another CFD? I currently finish my PhD were I model shallow landslides and debris flows with the Herschel-Bulkley rheology law, all results fit the experiments but only if I choose the yield stress tao0 and consistency factor k exactly a hundred times smaller that recommended by the literature.

vonboett November 14, 2011 09:47

...sorry that was a mistake in the preprocessor changing from [lb/ft^2] to [Pa]. Actually, the Herschel-Bulkley looks fine :-)

sharonyue June 18, 2013 23:53

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Originally Posted by pbryant (Post 297552)
Assuming that nu0 is not infinity, tao_y and tao0 are not the same but one can be calculated from the other by matching the Newtonian and non-Newtonian forms at the transition point resulting in: tao_y = tao0 - k*(tao0/nu0)^n.

Hi Paul,

This is where I cannot get it, just see the image:

The red line is nu, black one is tao. Is this what you said?

so is there anything wrong with my equation? but my equation is not implemented in openFOAM.

THANKS!


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