
[Sponsors] 
May 26, 2005, 03:15 
Hi, All
I'm a new user of Ope

#1 
New Member
MaJianfeng
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 8
Rep Power: 9 
Hi, All
I'm a new user of OpenFoam. I just found her several days ago and was interested in its open and robust attributes. After plays with it, i think it has a bright promising if it's help documentation can be strengthened. Now, comes my question: I run the LES case:channel395 and get several results written as files in different directory,e.g. in directory 1000, there are files of P,U,u_0,k,.....etc. My exact question is what's the meaning of U_0,Umean,R,Bmean. Does Umean means the average U with time?? Can anybody help me?? 

May 26, 2005, 04:25 
Umean is a running average of

#2 
Senior Member
Gavin Tabor
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 181
Rep Power: 9 
Umean is a running average of the velocity field and R is a running average of the 2nd moments (velocity variance av(u'u'). Bmean is a running average of the SGS stress tensor. By running average I mean a continuouslyupdated time average of the quantity.
Most of this is in createAverages.H, which is fairly easy to read once you get used to the syntax. I actually can't find where U_0 is being defined : I'm wondering if its redundant. I'll keep looking. Gavin 

May 26, 2005, 05:06 
U_0 and the other *_0 fields a

#3 
Senior Member
Eugene de Villiers
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 725
Rep Power: 13 
U_0 and the other *_0 fields are the old time values (i.e. timestep previous to U). They are necessary to restart calculations that use second order accurate schemes in time like CrankNicholson.
For the rest,"p" for a incompressible code is pressure devided by density. For a compressible code it is just the pressure (same for mean quantities). "pPrime2Mean" is the mean of the square of the deviatoric part (ppMean) of the pressure and is a good indicator for noise. "nuSgs "is the subgridscale viscosity and "k" is the SGS turbulent kinetic energy. "nuTilda" is a working SGS viscosity that is only used with the Spalartallmaras model. Have I missed anything? 

January 29, 2007, 13:55 
Hello
Does anyone know what

#4 
Senior Member

Hello
Does anyone know what is the definition of the 9 components of Reynolds stress R in OpenFOAM? Thanks! 

September 12, 2007, 17:24 
Hi all,
I was looking at w

#5 
Senior Member
kumar
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 112
Rep Power: 9 
Hi all,
I was looking at what the components of R is and how they are calculated in channelOodles. In createAverages.H, R is created as a symmetric tensor. so the 6 components of R written out by the program are Rxx,Rxy,Rxz,Ryy,Ryz and Rzz. As Dr. Tabor remarks above , R represents the variance of velocity thus the components of R should ; Rxx=ave(u'u') , Rxy=ave(u'v') , Rxz=ave(u',w'), Ryy=ave(v'v') , Ryz=ave(v'w') and Rzz=ave(w'w'). so the dimensions of R should be [0 2 2 0 0 0 0] . But if you look at the output file of R generated by the solver (say channelOodles.C) , then its dimension is [ 0 1 1 0 0 0 0]. Is this correct? Also in createAverages.H, R is calculated as sqr(U)sqr(UmeanPtr()) . thus R seems to be a function of velocity squared and should have dimension of m^2/s^2. and can someone tell me how to get u'u' from sqr(U)  sqr(Umean) . It seems to me this should be square(U  Umean) Thanks a lot kumar 

October 15, 2007, 07:59 
Hi Kumar,
About your last q

#6 
Member
hadi tartoussi
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: paris
Posts: 48
Rep Power: 9 
Hi Kumar,
About your last question i can tell you the following (PLEASE SOMEONE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG): R is a running average of u'u' so R=<u'u'>=<(uumean)(uumean)> =<(uumean)^2> =<u^2> =<u^2>  2<u.umean> + <umean^2> =<u^2> 2<u>.Umean + Umean^2 =<u^2> 2.Umean^2 + Umean^2 =<u^2>  Umean^2. Cheers, Hadi 

October 15, 2007, 08:01 
Hi Kumar,
About your last q

#7 
Member
hadi tartoussi
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: paris
Posts: 48
Rep Power: 9 
Hi Kumar,
About your last question i can tell you the following (PLEASE SOMEONE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG): R is a running average of u'u' so R=<u'u'>=<(uumean)(uumean)> =<(uumean)^2> =<u^22u.umean+umean^2> =<u^2>  2<u.umean> + <umean^2> =<u^2> 2<u>.Umean + Umean^2 =<u^2> 2.Umean^2 + Umean^2 =<u^2>  Umean^2. Cheers, Hadi 

June 13, 2010, 22:46 

#8 
Senior Member
Jiang
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Japan
Posts: 186
Rep Power: 8 
Very good!
Thanks for engene, kumar and hadi's explanation. hadi's explanation is especially excellent. This thread shouldn't be forgot. 

November 12, 2012, 02:52 

#9 
New Member

If it is necessary only for restarting calculations, why we have to store this data? I am doing LES and is experiencing difficulty with disk space. If I dont save this *_0 fields, I can save about 10 GB space. Would you recommend removing these fields?


Thread Tools  
Display Modes  


Similar Threads  
Thread  Thread Starter  Forum  Replies  Last Post 
How WHF is computed by Fluent ?  cfdltt  FLUENT  0  January 24, 2008 11:46 
Whatbs the best way to visualize paticles from lagrangian solvers  sek  OpenFOAM Paraview & paraFoam  2  September 19, 2007 17:02 
pressure is not only computed  KtoTo  CDadapco  0  March 5, 2007 12:09 
Whatbs best way to create new case  jvn  OpenFOAM PreProcessing  2  June 20, 2005 21:19 
how can i put the computed data into simulation ?  cornerstone  Main CFD Forum  4  October 3, 2002 19:39 