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Old   August 17, 2012, 04:04
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Hello,

Problematic : Is it possible, with OpenFOAM, to define a fixed temperature for a volume (named cellzone) ?

Explication : My problem is that i have a box in a room. I define the temperature field in my box as :
Code:
dimensions      [ 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 ];

internalField   uniform 353;

boundaryField
{
    box_to_box2
    {
        type            compressible::turbulentTemperatureCoupledBaffleMixed;
        value           uniform 353;
        neighbourFieldName T;
        K               solidThermo;
        KName           none;
    }
    box_to_fluid
    {
        type            compressible::turbulentTemperatureRadCoupledMixed;
        value           uniform 353;
        Tnbr            T;
        K               solidThermo;
        QrNbr           Qr;
        Qr              none;
        KName           none;
    }
}
The temperature of my fluid and of my box2 (in contact with box) is 293K. The temperature of my box is 353 K, and I want this temperature to be fixed. I want to study the radiation, forced convection (fluid with velocity) and conduction between fluid and theses two boxes.

But after 1 iteration, the fluid cool the box (293 vs 353), so the temperature of my box go down.

How can i fix the value in my box ? (I can't delete my interface ?!)

Thank you for any hint

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Old   August 23, 2012, 05:49
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Hi,
if you want temperature in your box fixed, then you do not need to model it! Simply, model box2 and fluid and where the box is, use a
Code:
type   fixedValue;
value  uniform 353;
boundary condition!
could you add a picture of your problem thus everything is clearer?

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Old   August 23, 2012, 08:34
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Hi,
if you want temperature in your box fixed, then you do not need to model it! Simply, model box2 and fluid and where the box is, use a
Code:
type   fixedValue;
value  uniform 353;
boundary condition!
Yes, but if I use this kind of bondary condition, is the heat transfert throw the interface will be calculated ?

Finally my goal is to calculate the heat transfert throw box1 faces, with wallHeatFlux (even if i don't know nowadays how it's work....).

I use topoSet and splitMeshRegion to create my boxes and my fluid meshes.
splitMeshRegion creates automatically my bondary as :
Code:
For interface between region fluid and box2 added patches
    6    fluid_to_box2
    7    box2_to_fluid
For interface between region pcb and box1 added patches
    8    box2_to_box1
    9    box1_to_box2
For interface between region fluid and box1 added patches
    10    fluid_to_box1
    11    box2_to_fluid
Have I to create a new patch, without delete the others, which is the same as, for example, box1_to_box2, but with fixed temperature value ?
Or I have to modify an existing patch, to put fixed value ?

I'm a bit lost :/

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could you add a picture of your problem thus everything is clearer?
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I have never used wallHeatFux (even though I tried to...). However, calculating the heat transfer should not be a problem...
As for the case: you can delete the box mesh. Interfaces box_to_x can be defined as patch and you can use whenever bc you want on it.

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Hello,
Quote:
As for the case: you can delete the box mesh.
I can't delete the mesh inside the box1, I don't have to.

For information, bondaries of box1 are defined as :
Code:
(
    box1_to_box2
    {
        type            mappedWall;
        nFaces          1444;
        startFace       62396;
        sampleMode      nearestPatchFace;
        sampleRegion    box2;
        samplePatch     box2_to_box1;
        offsetMode      uniform;
        offset          (0 0 0);
    }
    box1_to_fluid
    {
        type            mappedWall;
        nFaces          3724;
        startFace       63840;
        sampleMode      nearestPatchFace;
        sampleRegion    fluid;
        samplePatch     fluid_to_box1;
        offsetMode      uniform;
        offset          (0 0 0);
    }
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However, calculating the heat transfer should not be a problem...
How calculate heat flux without wallHeatFlux ?

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your fluid has "external" domains, right? your box1_to_x patch must be defined as that one. look at the boundary file and copy the definition (not the nFace startFace though!)
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No, it's a internal fluid, in a kind of canalization. Sorry, i wasn't clear, there are walls all around the fluid, barring inlet and outlet.
But...It's work !
As you said, I modified some point :

All box1_to* or *to_box1 were modify :
Before :
Code:
    box1_to_box2
    {
        type            compressible::turbulentTemperatureCoupledBaffleMixed;
        value           uniform 353;
        neighbourFieldName T;
        K               solidThermo;
        KName           none;
    }
    box1_to_fluid
    {
        type            compressible::turbulentTemperatureRadCoupledMixed;
        value           uniform 353;
        Tnbr            T;
        K               solidThermo;
        QrNbr           Qr;
        Qr              none;
        KName           none;
    }
After :
Code:
    box1_to_box2
    {
        type            fixedValue;
        value           uniform 353;
    }
    box1_to_fluid
    {
        type            fixedValue;
        value           uniform 353;
    }
So I modify "T" file in /0/box1 , /0/box2 and /0/fluid. Nevertheless, the bondary still be mappedWall and not patch. The calcul is running, but It seems to work.

But, destroying the compressible::turbulentTemperatureRadCoupledMixed wall conditin to a fixedValue, Is the radiation effect of my box1 in the fluid destroy ? I don't really understand how Qr file is used...

Code:
  Extract of /0/fluid/Qr :
   "fluid_to_.*"
   {
        type            greyDiffusiveRadiationViewFactor;
       emissivityMode  solidThermo; << Is solidThermo the material of the fluid or of the _.* ?
       Qro             uniform 0;
       value           uniform 0;
   }
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