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May 27, 2013, 06:17 
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I set a second order turbulence scheme with an error: Code:
divSchemes { default none; div(tauMC) Gauss linear; div(phi) Gauss linearUpwindV; div(phi,omega) Gauss upwind; div(phi,k) Gauss linearUpwind; div(phi,gas) Gauss limitedLimitedLinear 1 0 1; div(phi,epsilon) Gauss linearUpwind; } Code:
> FOAM Warning : From function polyBoundaryMesh::groupPatchIDs() const in file meshes/polyMesh/polyBoundaryMesh/polyBoundaryMesh.C at line 474 Patch empty specifies a group empty which is also a patch name. This might give problems later on. Reading field U Reading field gas Creating turbulence model Selecting turbulence model type RASModel Selecting RAS turbulence model realizableKE realizableKECoeffs { Cmu 0.09; A0 4; C2 1.9; sigmak 1; sigmaEps 1.2; Prt 1; } fluxScheme: Kurganov Starting time loop Mean and max Courant Numbers = 3.858134887 23.51635184 deltaT = 2.083333333e09 Time = 2.08333e09 diagonal: Solving for rho, Initial residual = 0, Final residual = 0, No Iterations 0 diagonal: Solving for rhoUx, Initial residual = 0, Final residual = 0, No Iterations 0 diagonal: Solving for rhoUy, Initial residual = 0, Final residual = 0, No Iterations 0 [0] swak4Foam: Allocating new repository for sampledGlobalVariables [1] swak4Foam: Allocating new repository for sampledGlobalVariables [2] swak4Foam: Allocating new repository for sampledGlobalVariables [3] swak4Foam: Allocating new repository for sampledGlobalVariables smoothSolver: Solving for Ux, Initial residual = 0.999875462, Final residual = 1.076653513e16, No Iterations 2 smoothSolver: Solving for Uy, Initial residual = 1, Final residual = 7.204656079e17, No Iterations 2 diagonal: Solving for rhoE, Initial residual = 0, Final residual = 0, No Iterations 0 smoothSolver: Solving for h, Initial residual = 2.679038313e06, Final residual = 5.013352019e08, No Iterations 2 time step continuity errors : sum local = 0, global = 0, cumulative = 0 [0] [0] [0] > FOAM FATAL IO ERROR: [0] attempt to read beyond EOF [0] [0] file: /home/ehsan/Desktop/Central/nonUniformMesh/test2/processor0/../system/fvSchemes.divSchemes.div(phi,epsilon) at line [3] [1] [2] [2] 61. [0] [0] From function ITstream::read(token&) [0] in file db/IOstreams/Tstreams/ITstream.C at line 83. [0] FOAM parallel run exiting [0] [1] [1] > FOAM FATAL IO ERROR: [1] attempt to read beyond EOF [1] [1] file: IOstream.divSchemes.div(phi,epsilon) at line 0 [2] > FOAM FATAL IO ERROR: [2] attempt to read beyond EOF [2] . [1] [1] From function ITstream::read(token&) [1] in file db/IOstreams/Tstreams/ITstream.C at line 83. [1] FOAM parallel run exiting [1] [3] [3] > FOAM FATAL IO ERROR: [3] attempt to read beyond EOF [3] [3] file: IOstream.divSchemes.div(phi,epsilon) at line 0. [3] [3] From function ITstream::read(token&) [3] in file db/IOstreams/Tstreams/ITstream.C at line 83. [3] FOAM parallel run exiting [3] [2] file: IOstream.divSchemes.div(phi,epsilon) at line 0. [2] [2] From function ITstream::read(token&) [2] in file db/IOstreams/Tstreams/ITstream.C at line 83. [2] FOAM parallel run exiting [2]  MPI_ABORT was invoked on rank 2 in communicator MPI_COMM_WORLD with errorcode 1. NOTE: invoking MPI_ABORT causes Open MPI to kill all MPI processes. You may or may not see output from other processes, depending on exactly when Open MPI kills them.   mpirun has exited due to process rank 1 with PID 11063 on node Ehsancom exiting without calling "finalize". This may have caused other processes in the application to be terminated by signals sent by mpirun (as reported here).  [Ehsancom:11055] 3 more processes have sent help message helpmpiapi.txt / mpiabort [Ehsancom:11055] Set MCA parameter "orte_base_help_aggregate" to 0 to see all help / error messages Killing PID 11052 PyFoam WARNING on line 232 of file /usr/local/lib/python2.7/distpackages/PyFoam/Execution/FoamThread.py : Process 11052 was already dead thanks.
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May 27, 2013, 08:21 

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the question to me is, which version of OpenFoam you are using (the syntax is different in different versions) ? In OpenFoam 2.2.0 just do: Code:
divSchemes { default none; div(phi,U) bounded Gauss linearUpwindV grad(U); div(phi,k) bounded Gauss linearUpwind grad(k); div(phi,omega) bounded Gauss linearUpwind grad(omega); } 

May 27, 2013, 12:33 

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thanks Philip
yes,I use version 2.2.0 now I'm using rhoCentralFoam and it doesn't have a div(phi,U) in it. what to do with div(phi) instead? my case is unsteady and compressible. when we have to use bounded keyword?what conditions the problem should have? thanks.
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May 27, 2013, 16:50 

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Greetings to all!
@Ehsan: "bounded" is the default option that OpenFOAM 2.2 indicates it will use, if not present in the respective line. For more information on this characteristic, see section "4.4.2 Surface normal gradient schemes" on the User Guide. Personally, I have no clue when "bounded" or other methods should be used... But the descriptions shown in the User Guide seem selfexplanatory!? And as Phillip hinted, the problem you were having was the missing "grad(epsilon)": Code:
div(phi,epsilon) bounded Gauss linearUpwind grad(epsilon); Best regards, Bruno
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June 2, 2013, 02:19 

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thanks.
You mean 'bounded' is related to snGrad ?or may be different to that? I removed div(phi) without OF complaining. Then OF uses a default method for this term in rhoCentralFoam?
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June 9, 2013, 10:15 

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But after looking at the source code, here's what I found:
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June 9, 2013, 11:37 

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thanks.
so bounded schemes can be only used in steadystate runs as i have understood. many thanks.
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June 9, 2013, 12:24 

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Hi,
you can use the bounded scheme in non steadystate cases too. http://www.openfoam.org/version2.2.0/numerics.php The functionallity of that scheme is defined in the libOpenSmoke thread. 

June 9, 2013, 13:07 

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yes I forgot about that thread.but I yet don't know exactly when bounded scheme should be used.
my case is compressible and unsteady and haven't a convergence problem. then should I use bounded? the fvScheme I use is this,is it correct or which changes I have to do? Code:
fluxScheme Kurganov; ddtSchemes { default CrankNicolson .5; //ddt(rho) CrankNicolson .5; //ddt(rhoU) CrankNicolson .5; //ddt(rhoE) Euler; //ddt(rho,U) Euler; //ddt(rho,e) Euler; //ddt(rho,h) Euler; //ddt(rho,omega) Euler; //ddt(rho,k) Euler; //ddt(rho,gas) Euler; } gradSchemes { default none; grad(U) Gauss linear; grad(rho) Gauss linear; grad(rhoU) Gauss linear; grad((1psi)) Gauss linear; grad(e) Gauss linear; grad((1thermo:psi)) Gauss linear; grad(h) Gauss linear; grad(sqrt(((CpCv)*(1psi)))) Gauss linear; grad(sqrt(((CpCv)*(1thermo:psi)))) Gauss linear; grad(T) Gauss linear; grad(omega) cellMDLimited Gauss linear 1; grad(k) cellMDLimited Gauss linear 1; grad(gas) Gauss linear; grad(epsilon) Gauss linear; } divSchemes { default none; div(tauMC) Gauss linear; div(phi) bounded Gauss linearUpwindV; div(phi,omega) bounded Gauss linearUpwind grad(omega); div(phi,k) bounded Gauss linearUpwind grad(k); div(phi,gas) Gauss limitedLimitedLinear 1 0 1; div(phi,epsilon) bounded Gauss linearUpwind grad(epsilon); } laplacianSchemes { default none; laplacian(muEff,U) Gauss linear corrected; laplacian(alphaEff,e) Gauss linear corrected; laplacian(alpha,e) Gauss linear corrected; laplacian(k,T) Gauss linear corrected; laplacian(DepsilonEff,omega) Gauss linear corrected; laplacian(DkEff,k) Gauss linear corrected; laplacian(DomegaEff,omega) Gauss linear corrected; laplacian(alphaEff,h) Gauss linear corrected; laplacian(muEff,gas) Gauss linear corrected; laplacian(DepsilonEff,epsilon) Gauss linear corrected; } interpolationSchemes { default none; reconstruct(rho) vanLeer; reconstruct(U) vanLeerV; reconstruct(T) vanLeer; interpolate(rho) linear; interpolate(U) linear; interpolate(rhoU) linear; interpolate(muEff) linear; interpolate(tauMC) linear; } snGradSchemes { default none; snGrad(U) corrected; }
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August 20, 2013, 06:57 

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can any one explian that what is the definition of bounded and unbounded schemes, e.g in this table for explain behaviour of interpolation schemes, which one is better, bounded or unbounded schemes? Table 4.10. Behaviour of interpolation schemes used in divSchemes linear : Second order, unbounded skewLinear : Second order, (more) unbounded, skewness correction cubicCorrected : Fourth order, unbounded upwind : First order, bounded linearUpwind : First/second order, bounded QUICK : First/second order, bounded TVD schemes : First/second order, bounded SFCD : Second order, bounded NVD schemes : First/second order, bounded 

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Hi Saeideh,
You can find some notions of what "bounded" is on the Programmers Guide: http://foam.sourceforge.net/docs/Gui...mmersGuide.pdf Some more mentions are here: http://www.cfdonline.com/Wiki/Appro...grids__Common From the following link  http://cfd.mace.manchester.ac.uk/twi...s/cfd1pt1.pdf  I quote: Quote:
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