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Old   August 23, 2006, 12:47
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Hi,
Thanks in advance .

i try to run a nozzle model, very simple, using icofoam. After try and try, and try ;-), run without problems. I run the same model in ANSYS and the result are not equal. In ansys, i need the density, but in IcoFoam No.

what equations solved icofoam, where not is necesary the density.??

My model is a modifid cavity, whit the nu 0.01.

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Gracias por adelantado.

yo estoy tratando de correr un modelo de una tobera sencilla. Despues de tratat y tratar, logre que corriera sin problemas. Yo tratto de correr el mismo ejemplo en Ansys, pero el resultado no es el mismo. Ademas en ansys es necesario la densidad pero en icofoam no.

Que ecuaciones resuelve icofoam, donde no es necesario la densidad?

Mi modelo es como el modelo cavity pero modificado, con nu de 0.01

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Old   August 23, 2006, 13:41
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In icoFoam, the pressure being solved is not the true pressure but is in fact p/rho. Thus the density cancels out throughout.

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Old   August 24, 2006, 16:50
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Hi

Ok, the press is equal. But, what happend whit the velocity, the graphics change, when change the density.

how i do, for make a model with the density of any value.

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Old   August 24, 2006, 17:00
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Multiply the pressure field with the value of density. If you want to feel really good about it, you can also add it an offset, e.g. 101325 Pascal for air at atmospheric conditions.

This can all be done after the simulation and there's no need to change the solver. Look at the magU utility for examples - you will be manipulating the pressure instead.

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Old   August 24, 2006, 17:37
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ok, with the press, i not have problems

my doubts are with the velocity field:

this is independent of density??

thanks and sorry the insistence.

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Old   August 25, 2006, 07:26
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Velocity is fine: remember, you only have grad p in the momentum equation and that does not change for arbitrary offset of p.

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Old   August 26, 2006, 12:35
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Hi again, and I am sorry for inconvenients for so many questions. One more, when I`m looking in the icofoam solver code, it appears a phi term (like a field Phi), that is multiply for velocity, and I`m not sure if that term is related with viscous loss term of generalized momentum equation. The problem is that changes in the kinematic viscosity produces big changes in the velocity field pattern, and not only in velocity field values.

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Old   August 26, 2006, 12:42
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Hi again, and I am sorry for inconvenients for so many questions. One more, when I`m looking in the icofoam solver code, it appears a phi term (like a field Phi), that is multiply for velocity, and I`m not sure if that term is related with viscous loss term of generalized momentum equation. The problem is that changes in the kinematic viscosity produces big changes in the velocity field pattern, and not only in velocity field values.
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Yeah but when you change viscosity you're changing Reynolds number so you should expect a change in flow field. Also if I'm not mistaken, Phi is a scaled flux per unit density per unit area...?
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