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Simba February 28, 2012 13:00

buoyantBoussinesqPimpleFoam gives incorrect results for non-steady laminar flows
 
Hello everybody,

We consider classical 2D Rayleigh-Benard convection in a domain with aspect ratio sqrt(2)x1 (sqrt(2) is half of the length of the periodicity cell according to linear theory). At the lower and upper boundaries we set slip conditions ("Rayleigh conditions"), at the left and right boundaries there are also slip conditions (so there are no traveling waves and mean horizontal flow).
For the non-dimensional parameters Pr=11.5968, Ra=56931 there must be a periodic solution (we have already obtained it by means of our own pseudospectral method).
The flow modeled with our pseudospectral code (64x64) can be seen here
http://sibgat.imec.msu.ru/convOF/lin...lines3_c_1.avi
It can be considered as "exact" solution.


Now we take the hotroom case and transform it to the described problem, setting RASModel to laminar and corresponding dimensional parameters to
h = 0.1 (height)
L = 0.1*sqrt(2) (horizontal length)
blockMeshDict (60 40 1)
nu = 1.567e−6
beta = 3.072e−6
Tb = 277.2 (temperature at the lower boundary)
Tu = 276.8 (at the upper boundary)
Tref = Tb

This gave wrong results in buoyantBoussinesqPimpleFoam, as can be seen here
http://sibgat.imec.msu.ru/convOF/OFconv4.2-3.8.mpeg
This regime obviously converges to steady mode.
BuoyantBoussinesqPisoFoam in OF 1.6 gave chaotic motion which does not seem to converge to periodic motion.
Playing with tolerances, nCorrectors, time-integrators, mesh did not give correct results.


Have anybody compared any of these solvers with time-dependent (periodic for instance) laminar flow?
I hope very much there is a solution to this problem...

Thank you!

olivierG February 29, 2012 06:22

hello,
This is an interesting test case, so if you can share your final conclusion & tests, this will be very estimate.

In the hotroom case, in fvSchemes, almost all div scheme use Gauss upwind ...
Maybe try with less diffusive 2nd order scheme ?

regards,
olivier

aaron_lan March 2, 2012 09:06

Hi,
I also met some problem with buoyantBoussinesqPimpleFoam solver for transient laminar flows.

What I am modelling is the benchmark problem -- flow over a cylinder. I set RASModel to laminar and switch off the turbulent. Make Reynold number to 75 and temperature is set to 289 K in the whole domain. All turbulent parameters in the 0 subdirectory are set to 0, e.g. alphat, epsilon, k, kappat, nut.
Boundaries: left_inlet ( T=289 K, p_rgh buoyantPressure 0); right_outlet ( T zeroGradient, p_rgh buoyantPressure 0), up and down are symmeyPlane.

The weird thing is that the temperature near the backward of the cylinder decreases. And the velocity field also goes wrong.
http://profile.imageshack.us/user/shuiquanlan/

http://http://profile.imageshack.us/user/shuiquanlan/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/401/88998130.png/

smajer March 5, 2012 07:52

Which version of the OF do you use? Is it 1.6-ext or 'original' 1.6 supported by OpenCFD?

aaron_lan March 6, 2012 11:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by smajer (Post 347692)
Which version of the OF do you use? Is it 1.6-ext or 'original' 1.6 supported by OpenCFD?

I am using the latest version 2.1.0. I am still struggling with this mixed convection over cylinder problem. With buoyantBoussinesqPimpleFoam solver, I modeled natural convection in a cavity and natural convection over a cylinder successfully. But when I come to the forced convection over a cylinder, simulations go wrong. The situation for mixed convection (combine natural convection and forced convection over a cylinder) is worse.

damu1414 November 24, 2020 04:46

Hello everyone

I have been facing issues with incorrect aerodynamic coefficients while validating flow over a heated cylinder using buoyantBoussinesqPimpleFoam. Instead of having negative mean-lift coefficients(Ri=1 and Re=100) I am getting positive values. As said by aaron_Ian, the natural convection simulations are near perfect. Problem arises when it comes to mixed convection and my wake is not being properly captured. I tried with foam-extend-4.1(using buoyantBoussinesqPisoFoam), but the velocity magnitude keeps increasing.

Please initiate a discussion and share your suggestions.

Thank you


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