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October 27, 2010, 09:42 
Cumulative continuity error large in parallel simulations

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Dear all,
It is not the first time people have reported that they get different results in serial and parallel simulations using OpenFOAM. One immediate explanation is that the preconditioning in parallel indeed has some randomness, depending on the order or operations. Differences between serial and parallel runs Also, one has to admit that preconditioning and iterative linear solver is no easy task in parallel. However, the problem I have now cannot be explained by any of the things I found in the forum or anything I can imagine: My cumulative continuity error is large in the parallel simulations, even if the pressure equation converged OK! Serial simulations are fine. Here is a summary of my solver and case: Solver: pisoFoam (RANS + LaunderSharma KE model), I added a random forcing in certain regions as source terms in momentum equation. (without the forcing, everything was OK). Case: periodic channel flow, with a small hump in the middle (even with the simple Re395 channel flow case, the problem below still exists, but less sever). Mesh is OK, with max nonorthogonality of 30 degrees. BC: walls on the top and bottom. Cyclic BCs on the streamwise and spanwise directions. fvSolution/fvScheme: both GAMG and PCG/PBiCG are tried. Pressure converges to tolerance of 1E8 (relTol=0) for the final solving (pFinal), othewise to 1E6 (relTol 0.04). Velocity and k, epsilon converged to 1E8 or even smaller. nCorrectors = 2; nNonOrthogonalCorrectors 1; Time stepping: Euler Spatial: limitedLinear for div. Linear for Laplacian. Here is the output for the last step: Time = 8000 Courant Number mean: 0.00746705 max: 0.0869933 GAMG: Solving for Ux, Initial residual = 0.00035758, Final residual = 9.2098e09, No Iterations 1 GAMG: Solving for Uy, Initial residual = 0.00168457, Final residual = 4.57093e12, No Iterations 2 GAMG: Solving for Uz, Initial residual = 0.00175593, Final residual = 6.0287e12, No Iterations 2 GAMG: Solving for p, Initial residual = 0.00536092, Final residual = 0.000108022, No Iterations 2 GAMG: Solving for p, Initial residual = 0.000290028, Final residual = 7.85811e06, No Iterations 3 RAS time step continuity errors : sum local = 6.63938e07, global = 6.63775e07, cumulative = 0.0306293 GAMG: Solving for p, Initial residual = 6.99397e05, Final residual = 2.91147e06, No Iterations 2 GAMG: Solving for p, Initial residual = 1.1464e05, Final residual = 8.45853e09, No Iterations 10 time step continuity errors : sum local = 6.63775e07, global = 6.63775e07, cumulative = 0.03063 GAMG: Solving for epsilon, Initial residual = 0.00102844, Final residual = 2.50781e12, No Iterations 2 GAMG: Solving for k, Initial residual = 0.00102089, Final residual = 2.54785e12, No Iterations 2 RAS uncorrected Ubar = 0.020188 gradP = 1.27122e05 ExecutionTime = 22810.4 s ClockTime = 24581 s The time history of the cumulative continuity error and (instantaneous) global continuity error is plotted and attached. Note the latter is scaled by 1E4, in order to appear on the same plot. The serial runs are normal, with the cumulative error in the same order as instantaneous cont. error or smaller, even with large forcing on the momentum equation. I think the cyclic boundary condition may be the reason. The flux through those boundaries are not exactly zero, but in the order of 1E5, as I examined using patchIntegrate. But why is the continuity error in parallel cases are all in the same sign, so that they accumulate instead of cancel each other? Why does it only appear in parallel? I don't understand. Any insights or suggestions are appreciated! Best Heng 

February 23, 2011, 09:04 
same situation

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hi
I've got the same PROBLEM like yours. Have you tried to simulate it with the whole system, is this Problem real from the cyclicggi face? thx 

February 23, 2011, 12:22 

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The problem is due to the cyclic faces, parallel computing, plus a forcing term in my momentum equation. So, when do serial computation, everything was fine. when I don't have the forcing term, everything was fine ... the combination of all these (cyclic + parallel computing + forcing) lead this problem.
Heng 

March 7, 2011, 05:13 
one more question

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