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Old   January 7, 2011, 19:24
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Hello Everyone,

I want to start a calculation on a rotating channel. In that case the governing equations change due to the Coriolis force.
Has anybody adjusted a solver or turbulence model to capture these effects?

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Old   April 6, 2012, 01:17
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Hello Everyone,

I want to start a calculation on a rotating channel. In that case the governing equations change due to the Coriolis force.
Has anybody adjusted a solver or turbulence model to capture these effects?

Thanks for your help,
hagen
Hi Hagen,

Have you managed to solve this probem? I'm stuck on the same, I've tried using moving reference framce as well as simple UDF to incorporate coriolis and centrifugal forces, however I'm still unable to validate my results with that of establised ASME and other papers....

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
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Old   April 6, 2012, 04:03
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Hi Hagen,
MRFSimpleFoam should work for your case.
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Old   April 10, 2012, 04:38
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Thanks for your suggestion. However, I think that the MRFSimpleFoam solver alone is not sufficient to account for RANS system rotation thoroughly, since not only the solver, i.e. the momentum equation, but also the turbulence model as well as the scalar flux model (if the energy equation needs to be solved) has to be extended. An additional production term due to Coriolis acceleration appears in both the transport equation for Reynolds stress and the scalar transport equation. More details can be found in the paper by Johnston, Halleen and Lezius (JFM 56, pp. 533-557, 1972). An exemplary extension for an explicit scalar flux model can be found in Younis et al. (Journal Heat Transfer, 132, 2010). Last year I implemented both into OpenFOAM on the basis of SSG and LRR. If anyone is interested in the code, you may send me a private message with your email address so I can provide code + documentation.

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Hi Hagen,

Could I please draw your attention to http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/fluent/99552-3d-rotating-channel.html#post353897.

I've trying to model a 3D rotating channel using FLUENT. I've been unable to match my Nu plots with that of an expermental analysis conducted by Wagner et al 1991.

I'm currently using a MRF with a constant angular velocity. Are you suggesting that additional source terms for the body forces induced by coriolis acceleration need to be included even if we are using a MRF??

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Old   April 10, 2012, 06:47
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You mention that you are currently using the standard k-e model for your calculations. Most turbulence models which are based on the eddy viscosity approach are material frame indifferent and therefore "blind" to rotation. In my opinion you might need a rotation sensitized turbulence model for a complete representation of the Coriolis acceleration. I have very little experience with FLUENT and I don't know if such a model is available. However, you'll find the theoretical framework in the papers mentioned overhead.
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Hi,Hagen:

I'm just struggling in this problem using DNS. I modified the icoFoam by adding the Coriolics force, and the centrifugal force is considered to be coupling with the pressure gradient term, so no specially term is added with centrifugal force. I ran the rotating case with a satisfied non-rotating case as the initial condition yesterday, until now the velocity is still increasing(my computer is too slow) , although the tendency of the Reynolds stress is right , the value is not satisfactory and also the U+ distribution along with y+. So can you please share your code with me? I want to see is there anything ignored.My email is:
znhuang@163.com

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