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Old   March 5, 2010, 11:45
Default Circular cylinder delayed separation on star-ccm+
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Hi everybody, I just registered.
I'm running a simulation on a finite lenght circular cylinder on star ccm+. This simulation will be used to assess some wind tunnel data I collected on the same model. In my experimental tests I obtained a separation line on the lateral surface of the cylinder located at about 80 from the frontal stagnation point. The separation line on star ccm is located at about 100. This results in a lower drag coefficient. I've already reduced the free stream turbulence to 0.001 but the issue persists. The flow seems to be too turbulent and that's pobably the cause of the delayed separation.
How can I solve the situation?

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Not sure what your setup is in terms of models and boundary layer mesh density, which also play a role; but have you experimented with the Gamma ReTheta Transition Model?
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Old   March 5, 2010, 12:25
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That's what I'm trying right now. Thank you, I'll get back to you!
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Nothing seems to work well, separation is still at 100 deg from stagnation point. Any idea?
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Give us details on your physics models, your mesh, especially in the boundary layer, and your boundary conditions.
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Free stream velocity=20m/s
Cylinder diameter=0.06m
Cylinder height=0.18m
10 layers of prism layer mesh
K-omega model + Theta Re Omega



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Reynolds number suggests it should be as you say (sanity check). How are you defining "separation" in Star-CCM? I'm guessing the reason Gamma ReTheta doesn't work for you is because it's not trivial to setup. So, let's go back a step; as a check, in your physics model, try suppressing turbulence over your entire cylinder boundary.

Here's what I would try for the mesh:
cell size: 0.00075m
prism layer stretching mode: wall thickness
stretching/layers: 1.5/15
near wall thickness: 0.0001m
prism layer thickness: 0.05*diameter
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