CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Software User Forums > Siemens > STAR-CCM+

Issue of Mesh

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   March 20, 2012, 11:25
Default Issue of Mesh
  #1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 197
Rep Power: 14
itsme_kit is on a distinguished road
Does anyone know what it means?
Attached Images
File Type: png Capture.PNG (15.4 KB, 298 views)
itsme_kit is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 20, 2012, 11:35
Default
  #2
Member
 
Ryan Coe
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 98
Rep Power: 15
ryancoe is on a distinguished road
I would guess that the surface isn't closed. Try running the mesh diagnostic tool on the surface mesh to check for problems. You may need to run the surface wrapper (and remesher) to get a good surface mesh.
__________________
Ryan
ryancoe is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 20, 2012, 11:46
Default
  #3
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 197
Rep Power: 14
itsme_kit is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by ryancoe View Post
I would guess that the surface isn't closed. Try running the mesh diagnostic tool on the surface mesh to check for problems. You may need to run the surface wrapper (and remesher) to get a good surface mesh.
I think it's closed
The warning will be another one if surface is not closed
I also selected surface wrapper and mesher

The result of mesh diagnostic is attached

How can I fix them properly?

Thanks
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Capture1.jpg (32.3 KB, 181 views)
itsme_kit is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 20, 2012, 11:54
Default
  #4
Senior Member
 
Ryne Whitehill
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 312
Rep Power: 18
rwryne is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by itsme_kit View Post
I think it's closed
The warning will be another one if surface is not closed
I also selected surface wrapper and mesher

The result of mesh diagnostic is attached

How can I fix them properly?

Thanks

Read the help guide on surface repair....you have a lot of work to do. Do not pay attention to Poor Quality and Close Proximity faces, those will be fixed by remesher. It is the others you have to fix.

It might be better to work on the geometry ni the CAD environment to clean it up more.

Alternatively, try the surface wrapper.
rwryne is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 20, 2012, 12:21
Default
  #5
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 197
Rep Power: 14
itsme_kit is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by rwryne View Post
Read the help guide on surface repair....you have a lot of work to do. Do not pay attention to Poor Quality and Close Proximity faces, those will be fixed by remesher. It is the others you have to fix.

It might be better to work on the geometry ni the CAD environment to clean it up more.

Alternatively, try the surface wrapper.
CAD body is not solid.
No coincident faces found.

What does this mean?
I tried to import my geometry again and then extract internal volume
itsme_kit is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 21, 2012, 05:32
Default
  #6
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 197
Rep Power: 14
itsme_kit is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by rwryne View Post
Read the help guide on surface repair....you have a lot of work to do. Do not pay attention to Poor Quality and Close Proximity faces, those will be fixed by remesher. It is the others you have to fix.

It might be better to work on the geometry ni the CAD environment to clean it up more.

Alternatively, try the surface wrapper.
Could you help me check the surface of my model if I send you the file?
Thanks
itsme_kit is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 21, 2012, 06:16
Default
  #7
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Germany
Posts: 636
Rep Power: 21
abdul099 is on a distinguished road
Just repair it manually on part level. That might be faster and you can rely on the result. On a part as simple as yours you really don't need the surface wrapper.
Have a look on the user guide and the tutorials how to do that.
For me it looks like you could fix the most errors by zipping the free edges. Maybe you also need to get rid of some faces due to the non-manifold edges, but that's hard to judge without a closer look on the geometry. I estimate that's less than an hour of work.
abdul099 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 21, 2012, 07:06
Default
  #8
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 197
Rep Power: 14
itsme_kit is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by abdul099 View Post
Just repair it manually on part level. That might be faster and you can rely on the result. On a part as simple as yours you really don't need the surface wrapper.
Have a look on the user guide and the tutorials how to do that.
For me it looks like you could fix the most errors by zipping the free edges. Maybe you also need to get rid of some faces due to the non-manifold edges, but that's hard to judge without a closer look on the geometry. I estimate that's less than an hour of work.
So the bad quality of surface is the main factor to cause failure of mesh generation?

However, what causes the bad quality of surface?
I just import it from SolidWorks
itsme_kit is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 21, 2012, 07:46
Default
  #9
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 197
Rep Power: 14
itsme_kit is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by abdul099 View Post
Just repair it manually on part level. That might be faster and you can rely on the result. On a part as simple as yours you really don't need the surface wrapper.
Have a look on the user guide and the tutorials how to do that.
For me it looks like you could fix the most errors by zipping the free edges. Maybe you also need to get rid of some faces due to the non-manifold edges, but that's hard to judge without a closer look on the geometry. I estimate that's less than an hour of work.
Checking the surface...
Error: Material boundary contains no triangles!
Error during volume meshing, deleting resulting mesh
CheckSurface::checkMaterialBoundary: Surface is not qualified for meshing
Command: GenerateVolumeMesh
CompletedCommand: GenerateVolumeMesh
In: [Machine::main, VolumeMeshingModel::execute]
error: Server Error

What is the problem of volume mesh?
itsme_kit is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 21, 2012, 08:09
Default
  #10
Senior Member
 
Ryne Whitehill
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 312
Rep Power: 18
rwryne is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by itsme_kit View Post
Checking the surface...
Error: Material boundary contains no triangles!
Error during volume meshing, deleting resulting mesh
CheckSurface::checkMaterialBoundary: Surface is not qualified for meshing
Command: GenerateVolumeMesh
CompletedCommand: GenerateVolumeMesh
In: [Machine::main, VolumeMeshingModel::execute]
error: Server Error

What is the problem of volume mesh?

It goes back to your initial surface. Usually you want to have 0 errors (meaning pierced faces, etc). You need to repair those by hand (see tutorial guide for how to do this) before meshing.
rwryne is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 21, 2012, 08:54
Default
  #11
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 197
Rep Power: 14
itsme_kit is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by rwryne View Post
It goes back to your initial surface. Usually you want to have 0 errors (meaning pierced faces, etc). You need to repair those by hand (see tutorial guide for how to do this) before meshing.
which tool is able to fix pierced face?
itsme_kit is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 21, 2012, 10:56
Default
  #12
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 197
Rep Power: 14
itsme_kit is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by rwryne View Post
It goes back to your initial surface. Usually you want to have 0 errors (meaning pierced faces, etc). You need to repair those by hand (see tutorial guide for how to do this) before meshing.

Can I mesh parts separately and finally combine them together?
itsme_kit is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 22, 2012, 13:34
Default
  #13
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 197
Rep Power: 14
itsme_kit is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by abdul099 View Post
Just repair it manually on part level. That might be faster and you can rely on the result. On a part as simple as yours you really don't need the surface wrapper.
Have a look on the user guide and the tutorials how to do that.
For me it looks like you could fix the most errors by zipping the free edges. Maybe you also need to get rid of some faces due to the non-manifold edges, but that's hard to judge without a closer look on the geometry. I estimate that's less than an hour of work.
I have fixed the surface much better than before
Why still can not perform mesh generation?
Thanks
Attached Images
File Type: png Capture.PNG (12.1 KB, 75 views)
itsme_kit is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
[snappyHexMesh] No layers in a small gap bobburnquist OpenFOAM Meshing & Mesh Conversion 6 August 26, 2015 09:38
[ICEM] Negative volume error in hybrid mesh siw ANSYS Meshing & Geometry 4 September 3, 2014 05:25
[Gmsh] 2D Mesh Generation Tutorial for GMSH aeroslacker OpenFOAM Meshing & Mesh Conversion 12 January 19, 2012 03:52
[ICEM] Unstructure Meshing Around Imported Plot3D Structured Mesh ICEM kawamatt2 ANSYS Meshing & Geometry 17 December 20, 2011 11:45
deforming mesh issue : I don't get how stiffness works bennn CFX 9 October 12, 2010 15:09


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 20:18.