CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Software User Forums > ANSYS > ANSYS Meshing & Geometry

[ICEM] Problem with a nozzle and ambient volume

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Like Tree6Likes
  • 4 Post By Far
  • 2 Post By Far

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   December 14, 2012, 07:43
Default Problem with a nozzle and ambient volume
  #1
Member
 
Davide
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 33
Rep Power: 13
Davide_sd is on a distinguished road
Hi all,
i'm trying to mesh a nozzle connected to an ambient volume; you can see the geometry pic attached. The nozzle have a small injector connected in the divergent. In the pics you can see the actual blocking and the premesh.
I have managed to mesh the nozzle correctly using an O-grid, but i'm not able to mesh correctly the front faces of the ambient volume; as you can see in the premesh pic, i have several distorsion. Is there a way to mesh the front faces?

Thank you!

Geometry: http://s18.postimage.org/ibdnm9d5l/Geometry_post.jpg
Blocking: http://s14.postimage.org/97uuwklqp/Blocking.jpg
Premesh: http://s12.postimage.org/3pk3zk0bx/Premesh_post.jpg
Davide_sd is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   December 14, 2012, 08:26
Default
  #2
Senior Member
 
Christoph
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Germany
Posts: 182
Rep Power: 17
energy382 is on a distinguished road
It's always difficult to give a good advice without .tin and .blk-files. So it would be very helpful, if you could supply them.

But one for sure: you've to insert another o-grid to resolve circular shape of the outer volume.

I can't see the details, you're talking about on your pics. So please supply the files or give us some more detailled pics.

Regards Christoph
energy382 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   December 14, 2012, 09:02
Default
  #3
Member
 
Davide
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 33
Rep Power: 13
Davide_sd is on a distinguished road
here is the file.
thank you for the help!
Attached Files
File Type: zip mesh_nozzle.zip (34.6 KB, 27 views)
Davide_sd is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   December 14, 2012, 10:54
Default
  #4
Far
Super Moderator
 
Sijal
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Islamabad
Posts: 4,553
Blog Entries: 6
Rep Power: 54
Far has a spectacular aura aboutFar has a spectacular aura about
Send a message via Skype™ to Far
You have problems in the outer volume and in the injector. I tried to make the o-grid but unsuccessful.
Far is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   December 14, 2012, 13:18
Default
  #5
Far
Super Moderator
 
Sijal
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Islamabad
Posts: 4,553
Blog Entries: 6
Rep Power: 54
Far has a spectacular aura aboutFar has a spectacular aura about
Send a message via Skype™ to Far
Some advance blocking techniques were needed to get this mesh.

Like creating three o-blocking, deleting few blocks permanently and few without permanent option. Deleted middle o-block, merged vertices, some were not merged. Extrude along curves option was also used.

You can further improve quality by adjusting edge mesh parameters and vertices.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg nozzle001.jpg (89.2 KB, 73 views)
File Type: jpg nozzle002.jpg (88.4 KB, 65 views)
File Type: jpg nozzle003.jpg (88.1 KB, 69 views)
File Type: jpg nozzle004.jpg (88.0 KB, 57 views)
Attached Files
File Type: zip Nozzle_Far.zip (29.5 KB, 19 views)
diamondx, energy382, MGF and 1 others like this.
Far is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   December 15, 2012, 05:40
Default
  #6
Member
 
Davide
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 33
Rep Power: 13
Davide_sd is on a distinguished road
you've done an amazing work here, thank you very much for the help!!!
i'll try to replicate your work; in case of problems, i'll ask here for some advice.
thank you again! =)
Davide_sd is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   December 15, 2012, 06:53
Default
  #7
Far
Super Moderator
 
Sijal
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Islamabad
Posts: 4,553
Blog Entries: 6
Rep Power: 54
Far has a spectacular aura aboutFar has a spectacular aura about
Send a message via Skype™ to Far
You can use your old blocking effectively if you change your outer domain into rectangular shape. Every will be perfect !!!

I am also attaching the intermediate blockings so that you can understand where to start and what to do step by step. Especially pay attention on blocking 3 and blocking 4 where I made three O blocks and deleted middle o-block. b

Also 5 to 10 where I am performing merge operations and association to edges. Blocking 12 with extrude along curve for. Compare blocking 10 with 12 inside the nozzle.

Do not follow blocking 17. First I tried to make the blocking in the injector. Then I deleted and instead first made the o-blocking in side the nozzle and carried into towards the far-field. Then extrude the blocking for the injector pipe and then made the o-blocking for the injector. Got it???

Hope it helps.
Attached Files
File Type: zip Nozzle_Far_intermediateblocking1.zip (69.7 KB, 20 views)
File Type: zip Nozzle_Far_intermediateblocking2.zip (69.9 KB, 15 views)
File Type: zip Nozzle_Far_intermediateblocking3.zip (64.3 KB, 15 views)
File Type: zip Nozzle_Far_intermediateblocking4.zip (51.3 KB, 15 views)
MGF and Davide_sd like this.
Far is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply

Tags
ambient volume, icem 3d, nozzle


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Shock in nozzle - when Christian Main CFD Forum 5 September 20, 2014 09:26
Probelm with supersonic exhaust to ambient newj CFX 2 August 9, 2012 18:01
Supersonic nozzle exit conditions Betty Main CFD Forum 13 May 24, 2012 00:26
compressible flow in a counterflow nozzle d.vamsidhar FLUENT 0 November 24, 2005 01:45
nozzle jet solution by compressibe and incompressi minun Main CFD Forum 2 September 7, 2000 08:23


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:32.