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oozcan December 20, 2016 00:06

Inflation in two bodies doesnt look like a single body
 
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Hi all,

I would like find out why inflation in two bodies doesnt look like a single body. At the attached two screenshots are seen. I have done one part including two bodies.

Hint: Second one has the problem

Any knowledge, or thought?

Kind Regards,

Kapi December 20, 2016 00:12

i could find the problem in second pic.
What issue do you have? sorry i couldnt figure it out

Antanas December 20, 2016 00:18

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Originally Posted by oozcan (Post 630506)
Hi all,

I would like find out why inflation in two bodies doesnt look like a single body. At the attached two screenshots are seen. I have done one part including two bodies.

Hint: Second one has the problem

Any knowledge, or thought?

Kind Regards,

Multibody Inflation

oozcan December 20, 2016 01:33

I am using 14.5 version I couldnt see multibody inflation. But I have done by selecting two bodies in geometry and wetted faces of interest in inflation tab.

oozcan December 20, 2016 01:41

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Originally Posted by Kapi (Post 630507)
i could find the problem in second pic.
What issue do you have? sorry i couldnt figure it out

Well, thank you, as you can see there is no layer compression because of the place two bodies contact

Antanas December 20, 2016 02:03

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Originally Posted by oozcan (Post 630517)
I am using 14.5 version I couldnt see multibody inflation. But I have done by selecting two bodies in geometry and wetted faces of interest in inflation tab.

What? I gave you link on flash video where it is shown how to get consistent inflation on multiple bodies. Have you watched it?

oozcan December 20, 2016 02:15

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Originally Posted by Antanas (Post 630520)
What? I gave you link on flash video where it is shown how to get consistent inflation on multiple bodies. Have you watched it?

Thank you Antanas,

I couldnt realize that it was a link


Kind Regards,

oozcan December 21, 2016 03:21

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Originally Posted by Antanas (Post 630520)
What? I gave you link on flash video where it is shown how to get consistent inflation on multiple bodies. Have you watched it?

I have watched the video. It is very different from thing I would like to make .

Please check watchfully regarding two screenshots. One of them has a layer compression in nozzle but the other one has an abrupt because of having two bodies. Inflation layer should follow like a single body. So, I need to split single body in order to see what some interior face values have in FLUENT. Inflation mesh couldnt like before.

I hope you understand what problem is

Kind Regards,

Antanas December 21, 2016 03:50

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Originally Posted by oozcan (Post 630694)
I have watched the video. It is very different from thing I would like to make .

Please check watchfully regarding two screenshots. One of them has a layer compression in nozzle but the other one has an abrupt because of having two bodies. Inflation layer should follow like a single body. So, I need to split single body in order to see what some interior face values have in FLUENT. Inflation mesh couldnt like before.

I hope you understand what problem is

Kind Regards,

Just do mesh like on image. You can't make inflation layers to flow between bodies with this angles.

oozcan December 21, 2016 04:03

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Originally Posted by Antanas (Post 630699)
Just do mesh like on image. You can't make inflation layers to flow between bodies with this angles.

I really dont understand, inflations should be given in boundary layer regions. It shouldnt be given joint of two bodies.That is my thought. Velocity in fluid flow must not be 0 there or decreased by shear stress . That is what, layer compression screenshot is correct, one way or another.

oozcan December 21, 2016 04:04

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Originally Posted by oozcan (Post 630700)
I really dont understand, inflations should be given in boundary layer regions. It shouldnt be given joint of two bodies.That is my thought. Velocity in fluid flow must not be 0 there. That is what, layer compression screenshot is correct, one way or another.

the attahced one.

Stanley90 December 21, 2016 04:42

Hi. If I understand, you don't want 2 boundary layers in area you have indicated? Because I don't know whole geometry..

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oozcan December 21, 2016 04:46

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Originally Posted by Stanley90 (Post 630711)
Hi. If I understand, you don't want 2 boundary layers in area you have indicated? Because I don't know whole geometry..

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yes, there is no a single body, I have splitted to two that's why, two successive boundary layer occurs.

Stanley90 December 21, 2016 04:58

Some time ago, I have the same problem with my model of combustor (1 body) and let's say measurement domain (2 body). I had to create transition boundary layers for one duct. I did it in ANSYS Meshing module in Workbench using selective meshing if I remember correctly. Are you also using Workbench for this study?

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oozcan December 21, 2016 05:01

yes, I am using ANSYS-Meshing,as well.

Antanas December 21, 2016 05:09

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Originally Posted by oozcan (Post 630700)
I really dont understand, inflations should be given in boundary layer regions. It shouldnt be given joint of two bodies.That is my thought. Velocity in fluid flow must not be 0 there or decreased by shear stress . That is what, layer compression screenshot is correct, one way or another.

Are there prism layers near walls? Yes, there are. So what's the problem?

Stanley90 December 21, 2016 05:10

Ok, so selective meshing should help you. Firstly insert inflation option on one body which is primary and then insert inflation at second body. You have to do it separately. After that, do the same with creating meshing: First click right bottom on primary body and select meshing on selected body... and when mesh is created do the same on second body. Consequently, second mesh should be depend on first mesh.

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Stanley90 December 21, 2016 05:24

ozcaan, here is more explanation about it: https://www.sharcnet.ca/Software/Ans...b_meshing.html

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Antanas December 21, 2016 05:32

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Originally Posted by Stanley90 (Post 630727)
Ok, so selective meshing should help you. Firstly insert inflation option on one body which is primary and then insert inflation at second body. You have to do it separately. After that, do the same with creating meshing: First click right bottom on primary body and select meshing on selected body... and when mesh is created do the same on second body. Consequently, second mesh should be depend on first mesh.

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This won't help him.

Stanley90 December 21, 2016 05:35

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Originally Posted by Antanas (Post 630731)
This won't help him.

Why do you think so?

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