CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Software User Forums > ANSYS > ANSYS Meshing & Geometry

[ANSYS Meshing] Meshing and zones of a reactor vessel

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Like Tree3Likes
  • 1 Post By alainislas
  • 1 Post By alainislas
  • 1 Post By alainislas

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   November 23, 2020, 06:02
Unhappy Meshing and zones of a reactor vessel
  #1
New Member
 
Saiyed Tasnim Md. Fahim
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Obninsk Institute for nuclear power engineering
Posts: 23
Rep Power: 7
stfahim is on a distinguished road
Hi everyone.
I am working with a reactor vessel in fluent. How to make all the elements of the mesh hexahedral?
Also in the reactor vessel, there are three zones with different porosity values and there are nozzles with pipelines that connect to the steam generator and circulation pump. How to create the named selection in this case ? As it is a big geometry I am finding difficulties.
I have designed it in SolidWorks for convenience. Do I have to combine the parts of the geometry in SolidWorks and then use it for simulation in fluent? Or do I have to create named selections in fluent and then simulate?
stfahim is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   November 24, 2020, 16:44
Smile
  #2
Senior Member
 
alainislas's Avatar
 
Alain Islas
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Mexico
Posts: 142
Rep Power: 6
alainislas is on a distinguished road
I suggest you to export the .IGES file from Solidworks to ICEM. You can create the named selections manually by following these steps:


(1) Import the .IGES file to ICEM
(2) Right-click on parts, click on "adding to part". Then select each surface item in the GUI and give it a distinct name than the default (ICEM assigns name GEOM, you need to change this for each boundary).



Once done this with all your boundaries you can block your fluid region manually. You will need to associate the block edges to the curves of your geometry. (I suggest you to break by connectivity, so you can have all curves defining limits shared by surfaces). Then just mesh manually.



This will give you an unstructured mesh with pure hexa elements (depending on your geometry, this might be tedious but will give you a very high-quality hexa mesh)
stfahim likes this.
alainislas is online now   Reply With Quote

Old   December 11, 2020, 06:00
Default How to do the structured mesh in ICEM
  #3
New Member
 
Saiyed Tasnim Md. Fahim
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Obninsk Institute for nuclear power engineering
Posts: 23
Rep Power: 7
stfahim is on a distinguished road
Can you tell me how to do the structured mesh in ICEM?
stfahim is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   December 14, 2020, 04:09
Default
  #4
Senior Member
 
alainislas's Avatar
 
Alain Islas
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Mexico
Posts: 142
Rep Power: 6
alainislas is on a distinguished road
Dear stfahim


Well, what I typically do is to export the .IGES file from Solidworks and import it to ICEM just as it is. ICEM recognizes the curves that define the bounding surfaces of your CAD file. Once in ICEM you just have to:


(1) Go to the tree (bottom-left side of the screen), right-click on "Parts" and then Create Part->Create Part by selection->Select entities from the screen and assign a name, then click OK.

Repeat as necessary and be sure to give distinct names to each named selection.


(2) Once with all parts created go to the blocking tab and create a 3D block. ICEM introduces a general bounding box. Watch some youtube videos on blocking, they will teach you how to properly block your geometry. Depending on the complexity of your geometry this may be suitable or not, sometimes is very tedious to define proper blocks, but trust me, this will give you a high quality hexa-mesh, if done with caution.



This method is basically like "to chisel" the blocks that define your fluid region.





Greetings
stfahim likes this.
alainislas is online now   Reply With Quote

Old   December 16, 2020, 17:48
Question errors from fluent
  #5
New Member
 
Saiyed Tasnim Md. Fahim
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Obninsk Institute for nuclear power engineering
Posts: 23
Rep Power: 7
stfahim is on a distinguished road
Hi there.
I couldn't upload the photos previously. Here I have added those. Previously, I have tried to mesh in Fluent and I got the errors "Patch conforming tetrahedron mesh failed possibly because of bad boundary mesh and A mesh could not be generated using the current meshing options and settings." You can see the errors in the picture along with the design.
These errors appeared in the default setting. Then I tried sizing if that works. But that didn't help.
Is there any way to solve these errors?

And do you think doing in ICEM CFD would be a better choice instead of doing it in Fluent? In that case I'll try to do it in ICEM

Thanks a lot for your help.
Attached Images
File Type: png Screenshot 2020-11-23 213813.png (145.9 KB, 10 views)
File Type: png Screenshot 2020-11-23 144222.png (106.4 KB, 7 views)
File Type: jpg 01.jpg (45.4 KB, 7 views)
File Type: jpg 2.jpg (46.1 KB, 6 views)
File Type: jpg 3.jpg (39.5 KB, 7 views)
stfahim is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   December 17, 2020, 12:15
Default
  #6
Senior Member
 
alainislas's Avatar
 
Alain Islas
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Mexico
Posts: 142
Rep Power: 6
alainislas is on a distinguished road
Well, from the pictures I see that your geometry consists of a central vertical cylinder and 4 pipes coming out from the sides. Depending on the type of analysis you want to perform, I'd test first a mesh with pure tetras, and then I go for hexa.

However, although meshing hexa in your case seems realizable with only extruded O-grids, you might find this process tedious especially if you are not familiar with ICEM, gambit, etc.. As a suggestion never try those automatic-hexa meshing options, most likely they will give you errors.


I am not expert with Fluent meshing tool, but if you have access to ICEM, you can mesh tetras by using the global mesh setup.



Watch some youtube videos if possible, they will teach you from scratch
stfahim likes this.
alainislas is online now   Reply With Quote

Old   December 17, 2020, 13:01
Default Thanks
  #7
New Member
 
Saiyed Tasnim Md. Fahim
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Obninsk Institute for nuclear power engineering
Posts: 23
Rep Power: 7
stfahim is on a distinguished road
Thank you for your help
stfahim is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply

Tags
hexahedral mesh, mesh 3d, named selections, reactor design, solidworks.


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
[Gmsh] gmshToFoam generates patches with 0 faces and 0 points Simurgh OpenFOAM Meshing & Mesh Conversion 4 August 25, 2023 07:58
[ANSYS Meshing] Is it possible to generate mesh in different cell zones in Ansys meshing? aja1345 ANSYS Meshing & Geometry 0 October 3, 2018 14:22
Help me to choose between Ansys Meshing, Fluent Meshing or ICEM ? pipolaki ANSYS 0 December 6, 2013 08:12
[ANSYS Meshing] fluid-solid zones meshing help s.garg ANSYS Meshing & Geometry 4 October 30, 2012 19:52
[ANSYS Meshing] Why Ansys Merge zones automatically after meshing m5edr ANSYS Meshing & Geometry 4 May 22, 2012 09:33


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 17:59.