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step June 4, 2009 10:48

Fluid-Structure-Interaction using Star-CD / Star-CCM+ and ABAQUS
 
Hello everyone!

I have a very basic question about whether it is possible to couple Star-CD and ABAQUS to simulate fluid-structure-interactions. I have a heard about a third party software tool called MPCCI by Frauenhofer institute. But I also read something about Star-CD v4.08 with which it shall be possible to achieve this "without the need for third party cross-code communication" (as stated on the website of CD-adapco). Has anyone any experience with this? Or is it even possible to use Star-CCM+ and ABAQUS without MPCCI?

Thanks a lot for your replies!

samaopen July 13, 2009 09:19

Maybe others can also
 
Hi , I don't know if you already heard about Oofelie Multiphysics.
This code has been coupled with many other third parties sw.
Typically they have a FSI solution in combination with Numeca.
By the way , I also heard some interactions between Oofelie and Fluent.
Maybe you could find information on the Web regarding this.

step August 10, 2009 06:02

Thanks for the reply!! I will check it out and see if I can get something out of it. Thanks again!

step August 24, 2009 09:17

some updates
 
According to the Star-CD (v4.10) documentation "loosely coupling" between Star-CD and ABAQUS is possible. For me that seems to be a one-way coupling as flow data is mapped onto a surface in ABAQUS. To achieve a fully coupled, transient simulation, MPCCI seems to be the proper way to proceed.
Does anyone has any experience in using MPCCI coupling for STAR-CD and ABAQUS? Is it a straight forward procedure or a rather tricky way to get (unreliable) results?
I depend on using STAR-CD and ABAQUS as other software products are not available for me.

mallya September 16, 2009 03:08

Hello everyone,
Please go through the link http://www.adina.com/index.shtml, you will come to know about FSI capability of ADINA.No need to couple any 2 code to solve FSI .
Use single code..............

step September 17, 2009 02:33

Thanks a lot for the reply!! I'll take a look at it!

Karl Solchenbach October 2, 2009 09:07

Star-CD Abaqus coupling
 
Hello,

it sounds that MpCCI is the best solution to solve your problem. You can contact the MpCCI Team (which I am part of) for a free test license at www.mpcci.de, we will surely be able to help you.

step October 5, 2009 05:02

Thank you so much for your reply! I will give it a shot. Hopefully over the next weeks I can give some feedback on how I could cope with the program.

samaopen January 21, 2010 05:43

Some interesting news about FSI....
Open Engineering and Numeca are now launching STRONG coupling for FSI
it gives huge amounts of advantages for this type of simulation
the integrated procedure is quiet lighter than using MPCCI
why should we get complications and dangerous error sources when simplicity is at your disposal?

mallya January 22, 2010 00:34

FSI using ANSYS -CFX
 
Hi all,
i am working on 2 way coupled Fluid structure analysis of a twin tube shock absorber using ANSYS12.0 (Mechanical and CFX), and now getting error like......Fatal error in requesting total mesh displacement from structural part. Is any one know the reason behind this, ur answer will be very much helpful for me.....

samaopen January 22, 2010 00:57

Hi, I'm quiet not estonnished by your request , the main problem in these couplings staying the mesh displacement and interfaces between structure and fluid. this is one of the problems you get when bad descripting criteria with MPCCI also. That's why such integrated solutions as Fine Hexa/Oofelie were set to prevent this kind of erros sources. I cannot Help you in your case because we're not using weak coupling for FSI.

mallya January 22, 2010 01:02

Thank u very much samaopen.........

hayeswayne24 June 3, 2010 20:49

Thank you guys so much, I have finally found the answer I was looking for.

anunu June 10, 2010 18:15

Hi,
In the new version, Star-CD 412 and Star-CCM+ 502, you can search the key words and find more materials about the FSI.

step August 2, 2010 09:41

Hello everyone!

Sorry, it took me so long to post an update. I ended up not using MpCCI but utilizing the FSI capabilities introduced in STAR-CCM+ v4.08. In contrast to MpCCI only linear elastic materials can be used. With the help of the manual I was able to set up a 2D FSI simulation that was sufficient for my needs.

Best regards

girishkaundinya June 11, 2014 00:49

Fluidyn Multiphysics for FSI and CHT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by step (Post 218263)
Hello everyone!

I have a very basic question about whether it is possible to couple Star-CD and ABAQUS to simulate fluid-structure-interactions. I have a heard about a third party software tool called MPCCI by Frauenhofer institute. But I also read something about Star-CD v4.08 with which it shall be possible to achieve this "without the need for third party cross-code communication" (as stated on the website of CD-adapco). Has anyone any experience with this? Or is it even possible to use Star-CCM+ and ABAQUS without MPCCI?

Thanks a lot for your replies!

Hi, You can also check out Fluidyn Multiphysics - www.fluidyn.com
Unlike other tools which have external coupling, Fluidyn has internal coupling capability and there many coupling methods available as well. If you could share your email address then i will be glad to share some technical publications on fluidyn-MP FSI for aeroelasticity problems.

zelpa June 24, 2014 13:30

FSI with STAR-CCM+
 
Here is a presntation on co-simulation with STAR-CCM+ and Abaqus. The coupling is part of STAR-CCM+
http://www.cd-adapco.com/presentatio...-co-simulation

Pasolo July 22, 2014 09:53

FSI Help
 
Sorry, i'm new with FSI between Star and Abaqus...i'm trying to realize a mechanical coupling for a re-entry capsule with an unconventional heat shield. This shield is like an umbrella and it is very flexible. So i would like to see texture deformations into a supersonic flow. I have also to scale my model to see what happens in different configurations. My problem is that when i scale my FEM model and CFD model star don't pass pressures to abaqus and the texture remains in the undeformed position.
So my question is: is it necessary that texture positions in FEM model and in CFD model are the same? obviously nodes positions could never be the same, but if i have different scale and different spatial position of the texture, it could work,or not?
Please help me

PS:i hope i was clear

JohnE-CFD October 31, 2014 12:48

FSI analysis with Abaqus and StarCCM+
 
Dear All,

I am seeking an individual to run FSI analysis for me with Abaqus and StarCCM+. I am currently handling a project for my company and have not had time to run these simulations myself and I actually don't have access to the software at my current location.

I will provide all the raw data you will need to run it, all I require is the report. This is more of an academic work, not industry based. I will pay for such service. You can contact me for further discussion if you are interested.

Cheers

pradeep6890 November 19, 2014 00:19

is it possible to import files from Gambit to Star CD?? if not wat are the files accepted in Star CD??


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