Bubble size distribution : Bubble column

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 July 26, 2012, 11:07 Bubble size distribution : Bubble column #1 Senior Member   OJ Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: United Kindom Posts: 473 Rep Power: 20 Hello I was wondering what would be the right way to specify the bubble diameter distribution in CFX for polydispersed phase in bubble column. Parameters: 1) Polydispersed phase gas with 20 diameter groups 2) Eulerian Inhomogeneous (separate velocity field for liquid and gas), MUSIG homogeneous (One velocity field for all bubble groups) I have observed that the bubble sizes peak at 6-7 mm and would want to specify fine distribution between 1 to 10 mm while coarse distribution between 10 to 40 mm. I realise some sort of geometric progression is a right choice. But have no idea what should be exact geometric ratio. Any help in this would be appreciated. Cheers OJ

 July 26, 2012, 19:34 #2 Super Moderator   Glenn Horrocks Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,789 Rep Power: 143 The MUSIG approaches are designed for this so are likely to be more computationally manageable. But if you have a chance I would try both approaches and see how they compare.

 July 26, 2012, 21:30 #3 Senior Member   OJ Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: United Kindom Posts: 473 Rep Power: 20 Am not sure I understood your statement I was talking about only one approach - homogeneous MUSIG in non-homogeneous Eulerian-Eulerian framework. So velocity field for gas and liquid are different. But velocity field for all gas bubble groups is same. Ideally, the volume averaged size fractions plotted for different bubble diameter groups should be dome shaped and not top heavy, requiring that sufficient range of diameters should be covered to keep the peak somewhere in the middle. This range for my case is 1 to 40 mm as I have deduced. Now, I need to make sure that I have enough no. of diameter groups in that range, such that any further increase in that number doesn't have significant effect on gas holdup or inter-facial area density. This is like discretization in bubble size group diameters to achieve size group independence. A geometric progression should be a good fit here. Yet instead of going by a hunch in guessing the geometric ratio, I thought of running it by this forum to see if anyone has stumbled upon a more scientific method. Regards OJ

 March 31, 2018, 13:01 #4 Member   Masoud Ravan Join Date: May 2016 Location: Tehran Posts: 59 Rep Power: 10 Hi I have a question about the Inhomogeneous MUSG: Do you know that if we could consider mass transfer between polydispersed phases due to coalescence and breakup?? I enabled Inhomogeneous MUSIG model but there is no mass transfer between phases although I have entered 1000 m3/s for calescence rate Thanks in Advance

 June 7, 2019, 02:58 MUSIG model #5 New Member   Dhiraj Lote Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 18 Rep Power: 11 Hello, Does anyone know, how to plot bubble size distribution in CFX. I used MUSIG model.

 June 7, 2019, 03:19 #6 Senior Member   Gert-Jan Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Europe Posts: 1,869 Rep Power: 27 You cannot generate that with a mouse click. In Post, just determine the mass fraction of each class at a point, line, plane, volume (or whatever you are interested in) and create your own distribution in Excel, or similar.

 June 7, 2019, 03:42 #7 New Member   Dhiraj Lote Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 18 Rep Power: 11 Thank you for the reply. In my simulation i have only size fractions of groups ( i.e. from group 1 to group 7). One more point is, how to report the value of the mass/size fraction of a particular group.

 June 7, 2019, 03:56 #8 Senior Member   Gert-Jan Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Europe Posts: 1,869 Rep Power: 27 I don't know. I never use Musig with groups. But I am quite sure it should be possible to calculate fractions of groups and relate that to masses and distributions. Just use the function calculator, look up a locator and a function, et voila.

 June 7, 2019, 05:03 #9 New Member   Dhiraj Lote Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 18 Rep Power: 11 Thank you again for your reply. It really helped me.