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PYJG February 11, 2014 13:33

Transient analysis-help
 
Hi,

I am working on a high speed flow with shock waves. The flow is turbulent and reaches mach 1 as it reaches the mouth if the expansion region.
I have a steady state solution for the fluid region in the model. Next step is introducing the solid boundary to this fluid region. The interaction is transient. I want to run this model for first 30 seconds. I used time steps of the order of 10^-6 to obtain the steady state solution. I want to efficiently but accurately model the phenomena occurring in the solid region.
a) are there any tips for setting up time steps in transient analysis.If I were to use the same time step as steady state it would take a lot of time.
b)will reducing the mesh size and increasing the time steps help?
So far I have used-
- total time 30 sec, adaptive meshing and tried different minimum time 10e-4, 10e-5, 10e-6 and #of loops are 7
-time steps 0.01 I get Finmes error

I am using high speed model and also introduced laminar to turbulent smoothness factor of 0.1. Please help

ghorrocks February 11, 2014 17:22

Time step size for most transient simulations is best set using adaptive time steps, homing in on 3-5 coeff loops per iteration.

Reducing mesh size usually results in smaller time steps being required. But you should set the mesh size from a sensitivity analysis, and then you get the time step size from 3-5 coeff loops per iteration and then you know the simulation run time. A common mistake is to decide how long a simulation should take to run, and then set mesh and time step size accordingly. This is obviously wrong.

Your time step size of 0.01s is obviously too big and causing divergence. (At least for the start of the simulation anyway)

PYJG February 12, 2014 17:07

Thanks Glen. That helps.

Another question- I have a polyline that traces the outline of a contour how can I extract the coordinates of the polyline in results?

ghorrocks February 12, 2014 17:35

In CFD-Post do File/Export and use the polyline object as the object to export.

PYJG February 12, 2014 17:45

Wow! Thanks Glenn. You have been very helpful. Thank you for the wonderful help you provide.

PYJG February 16, 2014 21:33

I extracted data from polyline but some points are missing. How do I make sure it does not skip points?

ghorrocks February 17, 2014 00:12

The polyline should have a point each time the line cuts a control volume boundary. So if it is missing points then you probably don't have a mesh in that area, or have a weird distorted mesh.


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