Numerical schemes and artificial dissipation

MarcelloAsciolla · May 25, 2018, 15:24

Is there a way to see what is the exact scheme for these options when I choose the numerical scheme in "equation class settings"?
-central difference
-high resolution
-upwind
-specified blend factor

Maybe it is in the documentation, but I did not found them.
For istance I have an idea for some of them (I know the classical formulation for the "upwind" and the "central difference" ones, but I do not know if there are modified version), but what is the expression used for the "high resolution" or the "blend factor"?

Is there a way to use a homemade scheme in CFX?

Which scheme can assure the minimum numerical dissipation (I mean the artificial one)?

Opaque · May 25, 2018, 17:15

Documentation section:

CFX Solver Theory Guide/Discretization and Solution Theory/Numerical Discretization/Discretization of the Governing Equations/Advection Term

There is no entry for a User Defined treatment of the advection term.

Is there a particular advection scheme you would like to try?

It would be great to know what such scheme advantage is?

MarcelloAsciolla · May 25, 2018, 22:54

Thank you, I will try to give a look there.

There is not a particular numerical scheme that I wanted to use, I wanted to know if there is this opportunity.

I need a CFD simulation with the requirement of little dissipation because it is for aeroacoustic purpose.

ghorrocks · May 26, 2018, 04:51

Then have a look at the central difference scheme. CFX also has a variant of central difference scheme for LES modelling - read the documentation for details.

MarcelloAsciolla · May 26, 2018, 06:05

Yes, I was thinking about a central difference one. I do not know if there is anything better than it, for this reason I also asked for a suggestion about different schemes... And I am glad to hear that there is a different version for LES, so I must think that they already thought about that.

ghorrocks · May 26, 2018, 07:00

Low dissipation is essential for LES, so you have a few low or no dissipation options for LES models.

May 25, 2018, 15:24	Numerical schemes and artificial dissipation	#1
MarcelloAsciolla Member Marcello Asciolla Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Italy Posts: 43 Rep Power: 9	Is there a way to see what is the exact scheme for these options when I choose the numerical scheme in "equation class settings"? -central difference -high resolution -upwind -specified blend factor Maybe it is in the documentation, but I did not found them. For istance I have an idea for some of them (I know the classical formulation for the "upwind" and the "central difference" ones, but I do not know if there are modified version), but what is the expression used for the "high resolution" or the "blend factor"? Is there a way to use a homemade scheme in CFX? Which scheme can assure the minimum numerical dissipation (I mean the artificial one)?

May 26, 2018, 04:51		#4
ghorrocks Super Moderator Glenn Horrocks Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 18,017 Rep Power: 146	Then have a look at the central difference scheme. CFX also has a variant of central difference scheme for LES modelling - read the documentation for details. __________________ Note: I do not answer CFD questions by PM. CFD questions should be posted on the forum.

May 26, 2018, 07:00		#6
ghorrocks Super Moderator Glenn Horrocks Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 18,017 Rep Power: 146	Low dissipation is essential for LES, so you have a few low or no dissipation options for LES models. __________________ Note: I do not answer CFD questions by PM. CFD questions should be posted on the forum.

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May 25, 2018, 17:15		#2
Opaque Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,945 Rep Power: 34	Documentation section: CFX Solver Theory Guide/Discretization and Solution Theory/Numerical Discretization/Discretization of the Governing Equations/Advection Term There is no entry for a User Defined treatment of the advection term. Is there a particular advection scheme you would like to try? It would be great to know what such scheme advantage is?

May 25, 2018, 22:54		#3
MarcelloAsciolla Member Marcello Asciolla Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Italy Posts: 43 Rep Power: 9	Thank you, I will try to give a look there. There is not a particular numerical scheme that I wanted to use, I wanted to know if there is this opportunity. I need a CFD simulation with the requirement of little dissipation because it is for aeroacoustic purpose.

May 26, 2018, 06:05		#5
MarcelloAsciolla Member Marcello Asciolla Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Italy Posts: 43 Rep Power: 9	Yes, I was thinking about a central difference one. I do not know if there is anything better than it, for this reason I also asked for a suggestion about different schemes... And I am glad to hear that there is a different version for LES, so I must think that they already thought about that.