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Samy November 14, 2004 21:15

Compressible or Incompressible?
 
I have a quick question. If I choose air 25deg,1atm in the pre 5.7, will the solver treat the air as incompressible flow? Thank you, Samy.

test November 15, 2004 03:11

Re: Compressible or Incompressible?
 
Hi, well air at 25 C is a constant property liquid so the solver will not treat as incompressible. You will have to use Air as an ideal gas which will CALCULATE THE DENSITY BASED ON IDEAL GAS LAW. iF YOU HAVE UR OWN compressibility equation you will have to create your own expression for density which can be based on pressure or temperature or both of them

Samy November 15, 2004 08:21

Re: Compressible or Incompressible?
 
Hi test,

Thank you for your help but I'm not quite get what you mean in the first sentence.. How come the solver doesn't treat air at 25C as "incompressible" when it hass a constant fluid property? I thought incompressible flow has a rather constant fluid property, which changes very little when pressure & temp changes. Thanks,Samy

SAM November 15, 2004 11:36

Re: Compressible or Incompressible?
 
ya u r right

but solver run on equations, be defualt most of the softwares have constant value for density

but if u want to change that property then u have to mention density calucation based on ideal gas law.

moreover fluid property also depends on geometry and flow conditions. may be there is huge tempreture increase and pressure jump (shock wave) in that case incompresible assumption may be wrong.


Glenn Horrocks November 15, 2004 16:42

Re: Compressible or Incompressible?
 
Hi,

To use compressible air (as opposed to incompressible air) as the working fluid, you have to select Air ideal gas as the fluid, and on the heat transfer model tab you have to select Total energy. The other two selections would give you an incompressible fluid with properties evaluated at the given temperature.

Glenn Horrocks

Tony November 18, 2004 12:16

Re: Compressible or Incompressible?
 
please correct me if I am wrong.

For premixed combustion in which fuel/air mixture is injected through inlet, when I create the fuel/air mixture, I set it as ideal mixture, the solver will treat each component in the mixture as ideal gas. But what about the combusted gas in the domain?

Thanks.


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