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Goenitz October 21, 2019 11:15

Pressure, mass or velocity boundary condition?
 
Good day,

I have inlet condition Tin 793K, Pin 1 atm, Vin 0.1 m/s and inlet size is 3.1X1mm.

The mixture is multi-component and its density is 227g/m3. Corresponding mass flow rate is 7.0565E-8 kg/m3.

For both velocity and mass flow rate inlet (Min) conditions, velocity profile is same with <5% error. But pressure is around 1 Pa in CFX post.

Why cannot I get ~ 1atm pressure?

P.S Absolute pressure is set 1 atm (it is just reference) and in 'material' tab, reference temperature and pressure are STP (also just reference as CFX theory guide).

Opaque October 21, 2019 12:20

It seems you are looking for absolute pressure, correct?

What variable are you looking at in CFD-Post ? Pressure, or Absolute Pressure?

Not certain what you meant by setting Absolute Pressure to 1 atm, there is no panel to set Absolute Pressure anywhere. Did you mean to set the domain-based Reference Pressure to 1 atm?

Goenitz October 22, 2019 05:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opaque (Post 747595)
It seems you are looking for absolute pressure, correct?

What variable are you looking at in CFD-Post ? Pressure, or Absolute Pressure?

Not certain what you meant by setting Absolute Pressure to 1 atm, there is no panel to set Absolute Pressure anywhere. Did you mean to set the domain-based Reference Pressure to 1 atm?

No I am not looking for absolute pressure.
I am looking for pressure (to be around 1 atm but getting 1-2 Pa just)
Yes, there is none and yes I meant domain-based reference pressure.

So what is pressure in CFX-post? gauge pressure?

Gert-Jan October 22, 2019 06:16

The variable Pressure in Post is the deviation from your Reference Pressure.
If your reference pressure is 1 atm, and your Pressure says 1 Pa, then this means that the absolute Pressure is 1atm + 1 Pa

Goenitz October 22, 2019 06:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gert-Jan (Post 747650)
The variable Pressure in Post is the deviation from your Reference Pressure.
If your reference pressure is 1 atm, and your Pressure says 1 Pa, then this means that the absolute Pressure is 1atm + 1 Pa

Yes, It is very clear from previous posts in forum.

My dilemma is: I am using ideal gas species at STP. So solution should give at least closer to that value. Or that is gauge pressure?

However, at inlet using velocity and not pressure.

Gert-Jan October 22, 2019 07:31

Static Pressure can be considered as Gauge Pressure, provided you have a reference pressure of 1 atm

You mentioned: "My dilemma is: I am using ideal gas species at STP. So solution should give at least closer to that value."

Closer to what value? To Standard Temperature and Pressure? No. If you have a reference pressure of 1 atm, then the variable Pressure will be Static Pressure, relative to reference Pressure.

You can get the variable Pressure to be close to STP (1 atm), but then you need to set the reference pressure to vacuum = 0Pa. This is also possible. Results won't change, it is just an off set.

Goenitz October 22, 2019 07:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gert-Jan (Post 747686)
Static Pressure can be considered as Gauge Pressure, provided you have a reference pressure of 1 atm

You mentioned: "My dilemma is: I am using ideal gas species at STP. So solution should give at least closer to that value."

Closer to what value? To Standard Temperature and Pressure? No. If you have a reference pressure of 1 atm, then the variable Pressure will be Static Pressure, relative to reference Pressure.

You can get the variable Pressure to be close to STP (1 atm), but then you need to set the reference pressure to vacuum = 0Pa. This is also possible. Results won't change, it is just an off set.

yes to STP or 1 atm value (though this is just reference as T will not be around 298K but what is set at inlet).

I will try 0 Reference pressure but tried before and simulation didn't start.

Gert-Jan October 22, 2019 07:58

In principle, Opaque already pointed you in the right direction. The STP that you are looking for is in the variable "Absolute Pressure" = static pressure + reference Pressure


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