|
[Sponsors] |
April 17, 2023, 04:45 |
flow split boundary condition at outlets
|
#1 |
Member
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 40
Rep Power: 9 |
Hello all,
Sorry if I am asking a classic question. I have a domain with an inlet and two outlets. At the inlet I can impose a normal inflow BC but at outlets I have no idea about the pressures and I only have flow split between the two outlets. I was wondering how can I safely impose this BC in ANSYS CFX? Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks |
|
April 17, 2023, 10:50 |
|
#2 |
Senior Member
Gert-Jan
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Europe
Posts: 1,918
Rep Power: 28 |
You mention you have flow split between two outlets. Does that mean that you know how much is going through each? If so, then there are 2 reasonable options:
1) set normal inflow, 1 massflow on 1 outlet and 1 static pressure BC on the other outlet (P=0Pa). 2) set massflow on 1 outlet, set massflow on the other outlet as well, set total pressure on inlet (Ptot=0Pa). |
|
April 17, 2023, 20:03 |
|
#3 |
Super Moderator
Glenn Horrocks
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 17,862
Rep Power: 144 |
As a general rule, you set the boundary conditions based on what you know about the flow at the boundary. So if you know the flow split at the outlets then you use this as your boundary condition. So you would define a mass flow boundary at the two outlets and a pressure boundary (total pressure probably) at the inlet. This is Gert-Jan's option 2.
__________________
Note: I do not answer CFD questions by PM. CFD questions should be posted on the forum. |
|
April 18, 2023, 12:50 |
|
#4 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,875
Rep Power: 33 |
Careful here. Though Gert-Jan's option (2) is desirable, my bet is on option (1).
Why? The mass flow split is not a user decision, but an observation in the experiments, or available data. However, the mass flow split is a function of the losses in the main section, and the two branches that create the split, i.e. it is pressure-based and not enforcement on the system. If lucky the split fits the mesh, and the discretized losses the model will converge; otherwise, it will refuse to converge. Think about it as the choke condition, a system cannot handle whatever flow we want, but whatever it can support based on physics. Similarly, with the energy equation. We can impose whatever heat flux we want IN, but not OUT. For heat removal, we are limited by the system's maximum available energy and the timestep used. Even worse, we cannot remove more energy that it is available in a given control volume for a given iteration/timestep, i.e. timestep limitation. With enough time, we can enumerate several examples to illustrate the point. Please keep us posted. I am interested in the final solution approach.
__________________
Note: I do not answer CFD questions by PM. CFD questions should be posted on the forum. |
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
3D Windturbine simulation in SU2 | k.vimalakanthan | SU2 | 15 | October 12, 2023 06:53 |
Question about different kinds of Boundaries and Boundary Conditions | granzer | Main CFD Forum | 17 | April 12, 2022 18:27 |
Wind tunnel flow simulation boundary condition issue | charan3007 | SU2 | 0 | October 21, 2021 09:27 |
mass flow in is not equal to mass flow out | saii | CFX | 12 | March 19, 2018 06:21 |
Convective Heat Transfer - Heat Exchanger | Mark | CFX | 6 | November 15, 2004 16:55 |