CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Software User Forums > ANSYS > CFX

Flow in Supersonic MHD Channel

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Like Tree3Likes
  • 1 Post By Antanas
  • 1 Post By ghorrocks
  • 1 Post By ghorrocks

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   June 14, 2011, 04:14
Default Flow in Supersonic MHD Channel
  #1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 496
Rep Power: 18
Antanas is on a distinguished road
Hello!

I try to calculate flow (laminar) of electoroconductive gas in supersonic channel of MHD generator. The channel consists of supersonic part of Laval nozzle, electrode zone and diffuzer. I use 2D problem definition. At supersonic inlet I define Static Pressure, Normal Speed and Static Temperature. Outlet is supersonic. I define magnetic induction in domain (Magnetic Field Model Option = User Defined) as (0,0,Bz(x)). This's external magnetic field induction, induced magnetic field should be neglected as magnetic Re << 1. As it's impossible to define resistance of external electrical load, I define voltages on electrodes (Electric Field Model Option for domain is Electric Potential). Walls of nozzle and diffuzer is insulators and I define Zero Fluxes there for Electric and Magnetic field. The same condition I define at inlet, outlet and electrodes (Magnetic Field for Electrodes). Electric conductivity of gas is the function of pressure and temperature (Saha equation).

The problem is that I obtain symmetric solution, though it's known that it should be pressure tilt in channel and local pressure growth at downstream end of cathode.

I wonder about defining conditions for Electric and Magnetic fields on boundaries and external megnetic induction (what option to use for Magnetic Field Model) and outlet conditions (as there may be local subsonic regions).

I calculated this flow (Euler statement) using my fortran program. I used stationary Maxwell equations resolved about electric potential Phi (Poisson partial difference equation). On insulators I used Jn=0 condition, at inlet and outlet Ex=0 or dPhi/dx=0 which is equivalent. There was not any condition for magnetic field as it's not required. For gasdynamics at outlet I used zero gradient conditions: du/dx=0, dv/dx=0, dp/dx=0, etc.

There was pressure tilt between walls and local pressure growth as it should be.

But what about CFX? It's lack of info about Magnetohydrodynamics in CFX. Please help! Maybe there's any tutorial (pdf / video)?
fir likes this.
Antanas is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   June 14, 2011, 08:12
Default
  #2
Super Moderator
 
Glenn Horrocks
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 17,703
Rep Power: 143
ghorrocks is just really niceghorrocks is just really niceghorrocks is just really niceghorrocks is just really nice
The best source of information about the MHD model is likely to be CFX support. I would give them a call. Other than that I can only suggest you read the general FAQ on http://www.cfd-online.com/Wiki/Ansys..._inaccurate.3F
fir likes this.
ghorrocks is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   June 14, 2011, 12:54
Default
  #3
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 496
Rep Power: 18
Antanas is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by ghorrocks View Post
The best source of information about the MHD model is likely to be CFX support. I would give them a call. Other than that I can only suggest you read the general FAQ on http://www.cfd-online.com/Wiki/Ansys..._inaccurate.3F
Thanks for advice Glenn, but I think it'll be hard to chat with them with my poor English
Antanas is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   June 14, 2011, 18:47
Default
  #4
Super Moderator
 
Glenn Horrocks
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 17,703
Rep Power: 143
ghorrocks is just really niceghorrocks is just really niceghorrocks is just really niceghorrocks is just really nice
I think you will find support is patient with poor English. Good English skills is not required for CFD. And CFX has support in many countries, including many non-English speaking countries.

So I recommend you give them a call anyway. It is likely to be the best source of information on your topic as it is quite specialised.
fir likes this.
ghorrocks is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   October 7, 2011, 17:01
Question
  #5
fir
New Member
 
firouze
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 3
Rep Power: 14
fir is on a distinguished road
thank you
i have problem in boundarys conditions apply for rectangular microchannal
fir is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   October 8, 2011, 04:55
Default
  #6
Super Moderator
 
Glenn Horrocks
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 17,703
Rep Power: 143
ghorrocks is just really niceghorrocks is just really niceghorrocks is just really niceghorrocks is just really nice
If you have a question start a new thread.
ghorrocks is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   February 13, 2012, 14:49
Default
  #7
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 496
Rep Power: 18
Antanas is on a distinguished road
I've solved my problem. Thanks to all.
Antanas is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Boundary condition problem for open channel flow Andy CFX 9 June 11, 2016 07:20
Channel flow setup in Large-eddy simulation Weihua Main CFD Forum 6 November 17, 2015 09:33
back pressure at exit for supersonic flow BigFrank FLUENT 6 April 24, 2014 15:13
LES of a turbulent channel flow stays laminar liu OpenFOAM Running, Solving & CFD 2 May 27, 2010 13:53
compressible channel flow.. R.D.Prabhu Main CFD Forum 0 July 17, 1998 17:23


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:01.