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September 20, 2017, 22:51 |
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liyong
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Hello,
When the ignition time is too late(about 13CA BTDC), the cylinder pressure and temperature will increase sharply, and the heat relase rate is similar, as attments show. It seems that energy is released in an instant, which is unreasonable. Anyone can tell me why? I have suspected that there are some wrong with reaction mechanism, but it's useless to change another mechanism. And I plan to use the third one. Thanks for your help! |
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September 21, 2017, 04:14 |
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Chao.xiang
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Hello My Friend.Today I meet the same question as you. Do you solve it?
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September 21, 2017, 04:19 |
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September 21, 2017, 15:17 |
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Hello,
What reaction mechanism are you using for your hydrogen combustion? Most of the mechanisms we have looked at were tuned to experimental data that was heavily diluted, and we have found that using these mechanisms under non-diluted conditions can lead to detonations. Best regards, Tristan |
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September 22, 2017, 09:57 |
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September 22, 2017, 13:20 |
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Please look at the following (or similar) papers to determine the 1st-3rd explosion limits for your mixture. Also take into consideration that the energy you deposited resulted in max. temperature (~10,000K) where H2 is bound to detonate/explode. Also, is this a Hydrogen-Oxygen combustion or Hydrogen-Air?
Wang, Xianming, and Chung K. Law. "An analysis of the explosion limits of hydrogen-oxygen mixtures." The Journal of chemical physics 138.13 (2013): 134305-134305. Thanks, |
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September 23, 2017, 01:05 |
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September 23, 2017, 22:07 |
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hi,
i met the problem that the combustion was very fast as yours, do you solve the problem? Is it the problem of mechanism? |
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September 24, 2017, 02:49 |
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I am reading the paper nitesh.attal recommended, you can also read it. What fuel do you use? hydrogen?
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September 24, 2017, 06:12 |
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thanks for your reply, i use methanol. i will read the paper too.
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September 24, 2017, 12:01 |
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hi, luckyboy
Do you solve your problem according to the paper above? i met the problem as long as i use the SAGE model. which combustion model do you use? Sent from my MI 6 using CFD Online Forum mobile app |
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