CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Mesh Generation & Pre-Processing Software > enGrid

rotational periodicity with enGrid

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   January 26, 2014, 08:51
Default rotational periodicity with enGrid
  #1
New Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 10
Rep Power: 12
overdrive is on a distinguished road
Hey everybody,
I want to mesh only one blade of a three-blade-propeller (120°cylinder) with enGrid. Can someone tell me how to do the setup of rotational peridiocity? In general, is that possible?
Kind regards
overdrive is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   February 1, 2014, 08:29
Default
  #2
Retired Super Moderator
 
Bruno Santos
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Lisbon, Portugal
Posts: 10,974
Blog Entries: 45
Rep Power: 128
wyldckat is a name known to allwyldckat is a name known to allwyldckat is a name known to allwyldckat is a name known to allwyldckat is a name known to allwyldckat is a name known to all
Greetings overdrive and welcome to the forum!

Are you referring to the set-up of the boundary conditions or to how the mesh can be generated for 1/3 of the geometry and then copied to the other 2 parts?

Best regards,
Bruno
wyldckat is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   February 3, 2014, 09:47
Default
  #3
New Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 10
Rep Power: 12
overdrive is on a distinguished road
Hello Bruno, first of all: thanks for your reply! No, actually, I just want to set up periodicity and to define periodic faces (like the way you can do it in icem) in order to calculate just one third of the whole geometry but taking into account the flow of the two other parts! Do you know what I mean?
overdrive is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   February 4, 2014, 14:55
Default
  #4
Retired Super Moderator
 
Bruno Santos
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Lisbon, Portugal
Posts: 10,974
Blog Entries: 45
Rep Power: 128
wyldckat is a name known to allwyldckat is a name known to allwyldckat is a name known to allwyldckat is a name known to allwyldckat is a name known to allwyldckat is a name known to all
Hi overdrive,

Mmm... well, it really depends on where you'll be using the mesh.
I say this because enGrid only does case set-up for OpenFOAM and it's still a bit limited on that topic. The best it can do is "symmetry" or "patch", which neither are what you're looking for.
Nonetheless, a bit more information on this topic for defining boundary conditions in enGrid is shown here: https://github.com/enGits/engrid/wik...ary_Conditions

For example, if you want to export the case for OpenFOAM, then first export in enGrid the case as-is (or just the mesh); then you'll need to use OpenFOAM's createPatch or manually edit the file "constant/polyMesh/boundary" to define the that each side of the 120 degree domain is a rotational cyclic patch.

I assume that if you export the mesh for any other CFD solver, you'll need to do something similar, namely to reassign the patches to cyclic/periodic patches.


Although... perhaps you're asking about how to ensure that the surface mesh on each periodic patch is topologically identical? Namely has the same number of faces, points and they only differ on the plane they are working? If this is the case, then I don't know how this is done directly in enGrid, if at all possible.
The best I'm aware of requires using Blender as an intermediate surface mesh manipulator, where:
  1. First mesh one of the periodic patches in enGrid.
  2. Then export the mesh to Blender.
  3. Delete the other patch in Blender and copy the meshed patch onto the missing patch.
  4. Use Blender to do some surface mesh stitching.
  5. Export from Blender to enGrid.
  6. Do the remaining surface mesh in enGrid, without modifying the periodic patches.
Beyond this, I suggest that you use enGits on-demand support, to get a quicker answer: http://engits.eu/en/support


Disclaimer: I do not work at enGits, I just mostly help with the ports for Windows.

Best regards,
Bruno
wyldckat is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   February 5, 2014, 09:15
Default
  #5
New Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 10
Rep Power: 12
overdrive is on a distinguished road
Hiya Bruno, nice to read your advices, thanks! Actually you're right, I want to export the case to OpenFOAM. I am not sure but I think it's necessary to ensure that these periodic patches are topologically identical, even with OpenFOAM and createPatch / cyclic type.
I think, I will make use of the enGrid support to ask for how to create such topologically identical patches before checking out Blender;-) but huge thanks for your ideas!
kind regards,
overdrive
overdrive is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply

Tags
blade, periodicity


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How to define number of blades using rotational periodicity in cfx-pre? li0012in CFX 1 January 22, 2012 01:40
Rotational Periodicity or Symmetry? gman89 CFX 3 May 18, 2011 18:45
[ICEM] Rotational periodicity karamiag ANSYS Meshing & Geometry 4 April 28, 2011 04:01
Help setting up rotational periodicity in ANSYS cheche Main CFD Forum 0 August 15, 2009 22:01
Rotational periodicity on tetra meshes with ICEM jorllam CFX 0 February 2, 2006 15:39


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:13.