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how to get the value of the flow rate in FLOW-3D |
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ouni firas
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DEAR experts.
i'm simulating a rectangular channel with a weir which is placed in the middle of channel. I want to obtain the Value of the discharge Q.knowing that I made the BC of the output channel as outflow . THANKS Last edited by ounifiras; November 11, 2013 at 14:40. |
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You'll want to use a baffle defined as a flux surface. This measures quantities that pass through the baffle and reports the results in the Analyze->Probe->General History data
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ouni firas
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thank you
But I have defined the BAFFLE as a flux surface at the end of the channel and I found negative flow rate values, and more when I open the file fluid volume I was surprised by the presence of the volume value for a very short time, before the flow reaches the BAFFLE, I did not find an explanation. thank you for the explanation |
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Jeff Burnham
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The negative value refers to the baffle orientation relative to the flow. The baffle has a positive and a negative side. For flow magnitude, you can omit the sign when reporting your results. I do not know why you have volumetric flow across the baffle before the front reaches it. Check your boundary conditions, and check to see if a small depth of flow is advancing before the main wave front.
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ouni firas
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thank you greatly for explaining; for the boundary conditions I set Xmin = Pressure; Xmax = Outflow ; Ymin and Ymax = Balanced, for Zmin = pressure with bcz baffle (1) = 1, and Zmax = Balanced, I don 'I did not understand how to change the sign? or change the direction of BAFFLE, is that I can work with absolut values of the value found?
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Flowdy
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mmmmm I´m not sure if this is what you want but... try Analyse->Probe->Mesh dependent history and in the options of "variable names" you would have Volume flow rate of the fluid at a boundary... you can find that in F1 with the name
"Probing Mesh Dependent History to Determine the Flow Rate" cheers |
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ouni firas
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thank you , but Is there a difference between flow rate and volume flow rate ? i want to obtain Q(m3/s). in the endd off channel.
thank youu |
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Flowdy
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Well I was wondering that also. But following the example of the f1 (How Do I Model...? -> Volume Flow Rate (VFR) Boundary Condition) we can say that yes, this is what you need, it is Q and the units are in [m³/s]
If one reads the meanings also, I would say: Flow rate is the amount of something which crosses a surface in a unit of time. But this something could be measure in mass units (kg/s mass flow rate) or in volume units (m³/s volume flow rate). I think that everyone got used to say "flow rate" to "volume flow rate" and this is why we were confused but I think is the same. I would like that someone else confirm what I´m saying (I´m still not sure) |
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Flowdy You are correct. Volume flow rate and flow rate are the same things.
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I set a baffle,and defined it as a flux surface "yes". But when I save it ,"defined as a flux surface" will change to "NO" ![]() Ican't see the Value of the discharge Q (Volume flow rate) in the Analyze->Probe->General History data ![]() Help me, please!! |
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Dear Ounifiras..
From you previous discussion, If I am not mistake..hopefully.. , you are trying to get the Outflow discharge, aren't you. I think we have the same case, but for me in the upstream, the BC is a inflow hydrograph ( volume rate). and what I have done is just simple one , in the analyze-> probe-> I check the Xmin boundary fluid 1 volume rate & Xmax boundary fluid 1 volume flow rate, and then after I click render, it showed two hydrograph which are for me they make sense, where the Xmax hydrograph is bit lower that Xmin because the effect of attenuation.I hope you also can solve as I do, but please correct me If I am wrong.. ![]() My Best Regards, Roy Daniel |
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Amir.ghamatloo
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Hello, dear experts
I am studying the model and I want to enter only the water flow without considering the water height behind the dam. Can anyone help me? (With Flow-3d software) My email address is Amir.gamatlo@gmail.com. |
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Proximus
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How can i keep constant water level as described height as 0.12 m above the stl.?
(BC inlet -xmin is VFR and fluid height entered as 0.12m) |
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