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Old   March 11, 2015, 04:15
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Guys, thank you for spending time on this post!

I really need some help from you guys!

I'm currently trying to simulate a 2-phase pipe flow. I'm trying to set the 2-phase inlet with fluctuating air volume fraction, something like:

from 0 to 1 sec ------> air volume fraction = 0.2 + 0.2*t
from 1 to 2 sec ------> air volume fraction = 0.4 - 0.2*t


Could I know how to write a udf to control that?

I've tried the following code similar to what I did for fluctuating velocity:

#include "udf.h"
DEFINE_PROFILE(volume_fraction, thread, position)
{
real t, v_f;
face_t f;

begin_f_loop(f,thread)
{
t = RP_Get_Real("flow-time");
{
if(t>0 && t<=1)
{
v_f = 0.2 + 0.2*t;
}
else if(t>1 &&t<=2)
{
v_f = 0.4 - 0.2*t;
}
}
F_PROFILE(f,thread,position) = v_f;
}
end_f_loop(f,thread)
}

However, I'm getting error message as follows:

error C2223: left of '-> nelements' must point to struct/union
error C2223: left of '-> storage' must point to struct/union

Can anyone please help me on this? Thank you so much! I'm a newbee in udf. Have a nice day guys!
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Did the fluctuating velocity DEFINE_PROFILE UDF work, and can you provide the code?

Also, try to stay consistent with naming variables such as DEFINE_PROFILE(volume_fraction, t, i). You may trip the compiler and/or solver up, if for example thread or position were special variables or functions used by Fluent.
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Old   March 12, 2015, 01:19
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Thanks for the reply!

It works for fluctuating velocity. The code is as follows:

#include "udf.h"
DEFINE_PROFILE(inlet_velocity, thread, position)
{
real t, v;
face_t f;

begin_f_loop(f,thread)
{
t = RP_Get_Real("flow-time");
{
if(t>0 && t<=1)
{
v = 1.5 + 1.5*t;
}
else if(t>1 &&t<=2)
{
v_f = 3 - 1.5*t;
}
}
F_PROFILE(f,thread,position) = v;
}
end_f_loop(f,thread)
}


It works pretty well.

Let me try with renaming the variables. Thanks a lot!
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Thanks for the reply!

It works for fluctuating velocity. The code is as follows:

#include "udf.h"
DEFINE_PROFILE(inlet_velocity, thread, position)
{
real t, v;
face_t f;

begin_f_loop(f,thread)
{
t = RP_Get_Real("flow-time");
{
if(t>0 && t<=1)
{
v = 1.5 + 1.5*t;
}
else if(t>1 &&t<=2)
{
v_f = 3 - 1.5*t;
}
}
F_PROFILE(f,thread,position) = v;
}
end_f_loop(f,thread)
}


It works pretty well.

Let me try with renaming the variables. Thanks a lot!
Strange... This one should not work, since you mixed up "v" and "v_f"...
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Strange... This one should not work, since you mixed up "v" and "v_f"...
So sorry. That was a typo. should be v instead of v_f
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The UDF doesn't appear to have any obvious errors, which leaves the implementation. Are you sure you're compiling and hooking the UDF correctly (same way as the velocity b.c.)?
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The UDF doesn't appear to have any obvious errors, which leaves the implementation. Are you sure you're compiling and hooking the UDF correctly (same way as the velocity b.c.)?
Thank you so much for your reply!

I was unable to compile the udf.

It kept showing me the error message:

error C2223: left of '-> nelements' must point to struct/union
error C2223: left of '-> storage' must point to struct/union

and "...The UDF library you are trying to load (libudf) is not compiled for 2d on the curent platform (win64)..."

I couldn't hook the udf to fluent.
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I'm wondering if it's something to do with the variable names. Try renaming the DEFINE_PROFILE variables as I suggested earlier and rename 't' to 'myTime' or something to make absolutely sure that Fluent isn't trying to use these variables for another purpose.

If that fails, then I suppose try stripping back the code to the very basics (no time dependency, constant value etc) to see which line is causing you grief because the error is not providing a line number to work from.
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And please be sure that you copied the right code here. (The code that gives the errors.)

The code that worked that you put here had a typo. How can that happen, when you copy-paste? I am not trying to annoy you, but please make sure the code we are looking at is the correct code, and has no typos.
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I'm wondering if it's something to do with the variable names. Try renaming the DEFINE_PROFILE variables as I suggested earlier and rename 't' to 'myTime' or something to make absolutely sure that Fluent isn't trying to use these variables for another purpose.

If that fails, then I suppose try stripping back the code to the very basics (no time dependency, constant value etc) to see which line is causing you grief because the error is not providing a line number to work from.
Thank you so much for your suggestions!

I managed to use "profile file" instead of using udf. I found profile is slightly simpler to use, just a bit tedious. Need to manually type all the time instance.
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And please be sure that you copied the right code here. (The code that gives the errors.)

The code that worked that you put here had a typo. How can that happen, when you copy-paste? I am not trying to annoy you, but please make sure the code we are looking at is the correct code, and has no typos.
So sorry about that. I was running simulation on another computer. I typed my thread according to the script on the other computer. I should have double checked it.
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Sorry, I thought i knew the problem.
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