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Old   May 24, 2021, 07:08
Default viscosity udf don't use correct temperature and strain rate
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hello. im use udf for calculate strain rate and temperature dependent viscosity. but viscosity udf don't use correct temperature and strain rate. how to solve this problem? this is my udf
Code:
# include <udf.h>
int counter=0;
DEFINE_PROPERTY(U_Visc,c,t)
{
real Temp;
real Visc;
real str;
real stress;
real asinh_input;
real asinh_output;
real b;
real Z;
real  A;
real alfa;
real blfa;
real n ;
real  Q;
real  R;/* Specific gas constant */
real  strlimit;
real Visc_limit;
real viscmin;
 A = 2.095E11 ;/* Material constant 304 ss*/
 blfa =  3.233E5;
 alfa= 0.0000050867;
 n = 1.812;
 Q = 74640;
 R = 8.314;
 Visc_limit = 2.E5;


Temp = C_T(c,t); /*0.7Tm*/
begin_c_loop(c, t)
{
 str = C_STRAIN_RATE_MAG(c,t);
b=exp(Q/(R*Temp));
Z = str*b;
asinh_input = pow(Z/A,1./n);
asinh_output = log(asinh_input + sqrt(asinh_input * asinh_input + 1));
stress = (1. /alfa)*asinh_output;
Visc = stress/(3. *str);
if ( (Visc > Visc_limit) || (str == 0) )
{
    Visc = Visc_limit;
}

if ( (Visc < 0) )
{
    Visc = 0;
}
C_UDMI(c,t,0)=stress;
C_UDMI(c,t,1)=Visc;
C_UDMI(c,t,2)=str;
C_UDMI(c,t,3)=Temp;
C_UDMI(c,t,4)=Z;
C_UDMI(c,t,5)=asinh_input;
C_UDMI(c,t,6)=asinh_output;
C_UDMI(c,t,7)=b;

if(counter<=20)
{
counter++;CX_Message("Strain= %E(1/s) Viscosity =%E PaS\n", str, Visc);
/* CX_Message("Strain*1e6= %E\n", str*1e6); */
}

return Visc;
end_c_loop(c, t)
}

}
and this is themprature diagram in udm
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Old   May 24, 2021, 10:31
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Temp = C_T(c,t); /*0.7Tm*/
begin_c_loop(c, t)


Switch these two lines.
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Old   May 24, 2021, 17:24
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thank you .still udm s are wrong. how to fix udm?
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Old   May 24, 2021, 22:06
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try this code
Code:
# include <udf.h>
int counter=0;
DEFINE_PROPERTY(U_Visc,c,t)
{
real Temp;
real Visc;
real str;
real stress;
real asinh_input;
real asinh_output;
real b;
real Z;
real  A;
real alfa;
real blfa;
real n ;
real  Q;
real  R;/* Specific gas constant */
real  strlimit;
real Visc_limit;
real viscmin;
 A = 2.095E11 ;/* Material constant 304 ss*/
 blfa =  3.233E5;
 alfa= 0.0000050867;
 n = 1.812;
 Q = 74640;
 R = 8.314;
 Visc_limit = 2.E5;

Temp = C_T(c,t); /*0.7Tm*/
str = C_STRAIN_RATE_MAG(c,t);
b=exp(Q/(R*Temp));
Z = str*b;
asinh_input = pow(Z/A,1./n);
asinh_output = log(asinh_input + sqrt(asinh_input * asinh_input + 1));
stress = (1. /alfa)*asinh_output;
Visc = stress/(3. *str);
if ( (Visc > Visc_limit) || (str == 0) )
{
    Visc = Visc_limit;
}

if ( (Visc < 0) )
{
    Visc = 0;
}
C_UDMI(c,t,0)=stress;
C_UDMI(c,t,1)=Visc;
C_UDMI(c,t,2)=str;
C_UDMI(c,t,3)=Temp;
C_UDMI(c,t,4)=Z;
C_UDMI(c,t,5)=asinh_input;
C_UDMI(c,t,6)=asinh_output;
C_UDMI(c,t,7)=b;

if(counter<=20)
{
counter++;
Message0("Strain= %E(1/s) Viscosity =%E PaS\n", str, Visc);
/* Message0("Strain*1e6= %E\n", str*1e6); */
}

return Visc;
}
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hello. if dont use begin_c_loop(c, t) fluent show this error

Code:
     4  1.0000e+00  4.1831e-02  1.6884e-02  1.7000e-02  3.5638e-04  0:22:44   46
        Stabilizing temperature to enhance linear solver robustness.
 temperature limited to 1.000000e+00 in 4967024 cells on zone 4 in domain 1
  temperature limited to 5.000000e+03 in 19391 cells on zone 4 in domain 1
 
 Artificial walls on 82 faces (0.7% area) of pressure-outlet 9 to prevent fluid from flowing into the boundary.
     5  1.0000e+00  3.9380e-02  2.1037e-02  2.0857e-02  1.6664e-03  0:27:24   45


Error at Node 1: floating point exceptiEon
rror at Node 0: floating point exception
        Stabilizing pressure correction to enhance linear solver robustness.
        Stabilizing pressure correction using GMRES to enhance linear solver robustness.

Divergence detected in AMG solver: pressure correction        Stabilizing pressure correction to enhance linear solver robustness.
        Stabilizing pressure correction using GMRES to enhance linear solver robustness.

Divergence detected in AMG solver: pressure correction        Stabilizing pressure correction to enhance linear solver robustness.
        Stabilizing pressure correction using GMRES to enhance linear solver robustness.

Divergence detected in AMG solver: pressure correction        Stabilizing pressure correction to enhance linear solver robustness.
        Stabilizing pressure correction using GMRES to enhance linear solver robustness.

Divergence detected in AMG solver: pressure correction        Stabilizing pressure correction to enhance linear solver robustness.
        Stabilizing pressure correction using GMRES to enhance linear solver robustness.

Divergence detected in AMG solver: pressure correction        Stabilizing pressure correction to enhance linear solver robustness.
        Stabilizing pressure correction using GMRES to enhance linear solver robustness.

Divergence detected in AMG solver: pressure correction        Stabilizing pressure correction to enhance linear solver robustness.
        Stabilizing pressure correction using GMRES to enhance linear solver robustness.

Divergence detected in AMG solver: pressure correction        Stabilizing pressure correction to enhance linear solver robustness.
        Stabilizing pressure correction using GMRES to enhance linear solver robustness.

Divergence detected in AMG solver: pressure correction        Stabilizing pressure correction to enhance linear solver robustness.
        Stabilizing pressure correction using GMRES to enhance linear solver robustness.

Divergence detected in AMG solver: pressure correction        Stabilizing pressure correction to enhance linear solver robustness.
        Stabilizing pressure correction using GMRES to enhance linear solver robustness.

Divergence detected in AMG solver: pressure correction        Stabilizing pressure correction to enhance linear solver robustness.
        Stabilizing pressure correction using GMRES to enhance linear solver robustness.

Divergence detected in AMG solver: pressure correction        Stabilizing pressure correction to enhance linear solver robustness.
        Stabilizing pressure correction using GMRES to enhance linear solver robustness.

Divergence detected in AMG solver: pressure correction        Stabilizing pressure correction to enhance linear solver robustness.
        Stabilizing pressure correction using GMRES to enhance linear solver robustness.

Divergence detected in AMG solver: pressure correction        Stabilizing temperature to enhance linear solver robustness.
        Stabilizing temperature using GMRES to enhance linear solver robustness.

Divergence detected in AMG solver: temperature
 Artificial walls on 5428 faces (46.2% area) of pressure-outlet 9 to prevent fluid from flowing into the boundary.

Divergence detected in AMG solver: pressure correction
Divergence detected in AMG solver: pressure correction
Divergence detected in AMG solver: pressure correction
Divergence detected in AMG solver: pressure correction
Divergence detected in AMG solver: pressure correction
Divergence detected in AMG solver: pressure correction
Divergence detected in AMG solver: pressure correction
Divergence detected in AMG solver: pressure correction
Divergence detected in AMG solver: pressure correction
Divergence detected in AMG solver: pressure correction
Divergence detected in AMG solver: pressure correction
Divergence detected in AMG solver: pressure correction
Divergence detected in AMG solver: pressure correction
Divergence detected in AMG solver: temperature
Error at host: floating point exception

===============Message from the Cortex Process================================

Compute processes interrupted. Processing can be resumed.

==============================================================================
how to prevent this error?
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Check those UDMs that you used. Plot them, see which one is not what you expect.
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Check those UDMs that you used. Plot them, see which one is not what you expect.
Hello. viscosity works well. and it match with temperature and ... .
but udm s(temperature, stress,... ) are wrong.
if i use begin_c_loop(c, t) udm s are wrong. if i dont use begin_c_loop(c, t) then give error!!
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If temperature and stress are wrong, focus on that.
You don't give me much to work with, so I can't help more.
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begin_c_loop(c, t) is already included in DEFINE_PROPERTY macro

you don't need to make additional loop over cell

from your log I can see the error comes out on 4th iteration. look at domain on 3th iteration, check udms distribution, analyse all variable you have applied to model:
temperature, stresses so on

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Hello. viscosity works well. and it match with temperature and ... .
if viscosity works well. and it match with temperature it means UDF works well.
in that case simulation doesn't work cause of viscosity values you've applied
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