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samanpoura December 11, 2013 16:36

Problem with modelling heat exchanger(fluid-solid-fluid-solid)
 
hi all
I am trying to model a simple heat exchanger,I want to see the temperature change between the two fluids and across the wall.
I create the geometry and mesh with the gambit,and Analys it with fluent,but flow temperetures,not changes,
T(inlet,cold water)=T(outlet,cold water)
T(inlet,hot water)=T(outlet,hot water)
i think my problem is boundery condition.
I upload gambit files
I hoped that some people on this forum would be able to help with a few issues I am having
please help me
thanks
http://www.4shared.com/file/PTHRtFi2/g-f.html (dbs format)
http://www.4shared.com/file/QZ2PFaij/g-f.html (mesh file)

RodriguezFatz December 16, 2013 04:44

Can you post some pictures of the setup?
Yes, this sounds like some b.c. problem. What are you using? How did you mesh the solid body?

samanpoura December 16, 2013 05:08

i mesh model with gambit,and upload gambit and mesh file...

RodriguezFatz December 16, 2013 05:10

The mesh file doesn't show your fluent settings. Also, I am at work and can't download files from mysterious places.

samanpoura December 16, 2013 05:27

4 Attachment(s)
upload all b.c?
if i upload cas and data file(fluent file),can u download them?

RodriguezFatz December 16, 2013 06:38

Did you also set the material of the inner pipe to "solid, aluminium"? I can't see it on the picture, but you have some gridpoints in the solid (inner) part, right?

samanpoura December 16, 2013 07:02

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I upload a new pic,
material of the iner pipe and outer pipe set to "solid, aluminium
iner flow inlet: v=0.5
T=370k
outer flow inlet: v=0.5
T=275
i mesh iner flow,outer flow,iner pipe and outer pipe
one question,what b.c set for the wall of iner pipe?(neighboring water)

RodriguezFatz December 16, 2013 07:09

You need to set both sides of the inner pipe to "coupled" for the thermal b.c.

Why is the inner fluid mesh so coarse?

samanpoura December 16, 2013 07:30

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i improve the mesh and set both sides of the inner pipe to coupled
but the tempreture not change...
):

RodriguezFatz December 16, 2013 07:35

Did you also set the material property of the solid? I don't know what material is the default setting. Go to "Cell Zone Conditions" -> your solid body under "Zone" and see, if the "Type" is solid. Also click on "Edit..." and see, if the material is aluminium.

samanpoura December 16, 2013 07:39

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yes,i do it

RodriguezFatz December 16, 2013 07:42

Hmmm... is the mesh conformal at all transitions fluid->solid->fluid?

RodriguezFatz December 16, 2013 07:47

Also: Did you set both "wall:013" and "wall:013-shadow" to coupled, for both sides of the pipe? I don't know the meaning of these, but I just had a look at some old case and saw, that I did it there.

samanpoura December 16, 2013 07:48

yes
there is no conduction heat transfer acroas the iner pipe,but i dont know why..!!
:confused:

RodriguezFatz December 16, 2013 07:50

1) Yes to post #12 or #13?
2) Create a line perpendicular to the pipe and make an XY plot of temperature. Can you post it?
3) How is your y+ at all walls?

samanpoura December 16, 2013 07:58

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i coupled both "wall:013" and "wall:013-shadow",but maybe i do it wrong
pleace say how can i couple walls...

RodriguezFatz December 16, 2013 08:01

wall:013 and wall:130-shadow are both the same wall. It is on one side of the inner cylinder. You also need to set the "coupled" b.c. to the other side of the inner wall.

Make an XY plot over a line. Not a contour plot.

samanpoura December 16, 2013 08:14

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xy plot: center to outside

RodriguezFatz December 16, 2013 08:17

Do you have periodic boundary conditions in x-direction?

samanpoura December 16, 2013 08:20

no,i have'nt
i send u xy plot in y direction


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