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l.tijsseling October 27, 2014 09:37

QMOM Boundary Values
 
When using the QMOM method to solve the PBE's Fluent requires boundary values for each moment (0 to 5). After a thorough literature research I haven't been able to find how to compute these boundary values.

Anyone with a solution?

sola86 September 23, 2015 21:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by l.tijsseling (Post 516165)
When using the QMOM method to solve the PBE's Fluent requires boundary values for each moment (0 to 5). After a thorough literature research I haven't been able to find how to compute these boundary values.

Anyone with a solution?

Now,do you know how to set boundary values?

l.tijsseling October 9, 2015 06:23

Yes I did! Have you found them yet or do you need help?

sola86 October 9, 2015 07:13

Yes,I need! What's the principle to set the BC values of moments. Did your simulation results coincide with your expectations? Did you ever try DQMOM method?

sola86 October 9, 2015 07:20

Yes,I need! What's the principle to set the BC values of moments. Did your simulation results coincide with your expectations? Did you ever try DQMOM method?

l.tijsseling October 9, 2015 08:41

They did eventually agree with the expected results. I have not used the DQMOM, as I was only working with two phases.

You know moment-0 is the number of bubbles, moment-1 the total length, moment-2 the total area and moment-3 the total volume. You need these values in #/m3. The parameter you decide is the diameter of the bubble.

Please note that moment-3 has the same value regardless of the bubble diameter.
As I only specified boundary conditions at the inlet, moment-0 was 1/volume one bubble and the others can be deduced from there.

I achieved most succes using the Luo coalescence and break up kernel.

sola86 October 9, 2015 08:58

Sorry, I can't understand what you mean by the following. Can you explain it in detail?

“You need these values in #/m3. The parameter you decide is the diameter of the bubble.

Please note that moment-3 has the same value regardless of the bubble diameter.
As I only specified boundary conditions at the inlet, moment-0 was 1/volume one bubble and the others can be deduced from there”

l.tijsseling October 9, 2015 09:13

I'll send you a PM for contact details.

sola86 October 9, 2015 21:02

OK, thank you. Or you can send me an email. My email is nel86@qq.com.

Athena December 5, 2015 01:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by l.tijsseling (Post 516165)
When using the QMOM method to solve the PBE's Fluent requires boundary values for each moment (0 to 5). After a thorough literature research I haven't been able to find how to compute these boundary values.

Anyone with a solution?

Hellow, have you meet the trouble about adding correction term into sorce term? I don't know how to add it reasonablely.

winkungzxl May 5, 2016 00:00

Up this topic

Really need the answer tho

Linda Liang November 14, 2017 01:57

QMOM boundary moment values
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by l.tijsseling (Post 567317)
They did eventually agree with the expected results. I have not used the DQMOM, as I was only working with two phases.

You know moment-0 is the number of bubbles, moment-1 the total length, moment-2 the total area and moment-3 the total volume. You need these values in #/m3. The parameter you decide is the diameter of the bubble.

Please note that moment-3 has the same value regardless of the bubble diameter.
As I only specified boundary conditions at the inlet, moment-0 was 1/volume one bubble and the others can be deduced from there.

I achieved most succes using the Luo coalescence and break up kernel.

You mean only the moment-0(1/one bubble volume) would be specified at the inlet when the DQMOM is used? Is the diameter of the bubble an averaged one? If the diameter of bubbles is a size distribution, how to set the boundary values? Thanks in advance

dhiraj.lote@gmail.com May 13, 2019 00:40

Hello,
Can you please help me for reconstruction of bubble size distribution from QMOM

Maud Wong May 27, 2020 04:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by l.tijsseling (Post 567317)
They did eventually agree with the expected results. I have not used the DQMOM, as I was only working with two phases.

You know moment-0 is the number of bubbles, moment-1 the total length, moment-2 the total area and moment-3 the total volume. You need these values in #/m3. The parameter you decide is the diameter of the bubble.

Please note that moment-3 has the same value regardless of the bubble diameter.
As I only specified boundary conditions at the inlet, moment-0 was 1/volume one bubble and the others can be deduced from there.

I achieved most succes using the Luo coalescence and break up kernel.

hello, I have questions about setting boundary values at the inlet in DQMOM, I don't konw how to set the moment4's value, can you give me a hand? Thank you in advance! my email:1025028835@qq.com


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