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Old   July 26, 2016, 07:21
Default Turbulence and wall function in multiphase flow
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Hello guys

I'm simulating free surface flow around a ship with air and water!
I've search the forum to get information about choosing turbulence model and wall functions, and learned a lot...

However, in my case the flow around the ship consist of water and air and the y plus value ranges between 1.25 in the air region to 124 in the water region...

How can I keep the y plus above 30 as suggested by fluent guide?
Can I use Scalable wall function in this case?

I have tried to get y plus around 1 to use SST k-omega model, but the mesh quality decreased drastically...


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tnx in advance
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Old   July 26, 2016, 16:50
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> How can I keep the y plus above 30 as suggested by fluent guide?

By coarsening the mesh. This tool will help you determine how coarse: http://www.cfd-online.com/Tools/yplus.php

>I have tried to get y plus around 1 to use SST k-omega model, but the mesh quality decreased drastically

This is not clear. How can a turbulence model change your mesh?
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Old   July 26, 2016, 18:15
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> How can I keep the y plus above 30 as suggested by fluent guide?

By coarsening the mesh. This tool will help you determine how coarse: http://www.cfd-online.com/Tools/yplus.php
tnx for the answer mate
As I said the y plus variation is on the same wall (ship hull)! if I coarsen the mesh the minimum yplus increases but at the same time the maximum yplus surpass 300 limitation...

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>I have tried to get y plus around 1 to use SST k-omega model, but the mesh quality decreased drastically

This is not clear. How can a turbulence model change your mesh?
I may have been unclear here
I have refined the mesh to get yplus around 1 but so I can use SST k-omega model! however refining the boundary (inflation layer) decreases the mesh quality...
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Old   July 27, 2016, 15:58
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that seems like a meshing related issue. May be you can create a near boundary mapped region manually instead of inflation layer so that you have more control.
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