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TheMightySpartan August 14, 2018 15:37

Wall Functions & Turbulence Models Query [y plus ranges]
 
Hi I'm trying to understand the wall functions and turbulence models and the requirements to satisfy each mathematical model via the mesh.

Please correct me if I'm wrong below.
  • Standard wall functions y+ range 30 < 300
  • Enhanced wall treatment, Fluent manual doesn't appear to be clear on this issue, some say < 1 others say <10.
  • For k-w models y+ < 1 for all.
Thanks.
TheMightySpartan

LuckyTran August 14, 2018 15:54

Standard wall functions can certainly be used in the y+<10 range. Standard wall functions have a low reynolds number treatment. What's special about enhanced wall functions, is the enhanced part.

Omega models are designed for low y+, but they can tolerate (they use wall functions) for high y+ meshes. Note that k-w SST model is a blended k-e and k-w model that tolerates high and low y+ meshes.

y+ < 10 or y+ < 1 is a matter of a lot of personal preference and experience. The point is to be low. The demarcation between viscous sublayer <5 versus linear region <10 only confounds the issue even more. If it matters to you, then do a grid sensitivity study.

What's more important than the wall y+ is the total # of grid points you have across the boundary layer and this is not captured by simply plotting y+.

TheMightySpartan August 14, 2018 16:02

So I should forget about y+ and do mesh sensitivity study?

LuckyTran August 15, 2018 03:57

You should always do a mesh sensitivity study. Especially if you ever plan on publishing anything.

TheMightySpartan August 18, 2018 02:48

I understand you are talking about the greater mesh region but there must be some kind of rule book regarding wall functions/turbulence model and y+ right?


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