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Akin-iii April 8, 2019 09:55

Suction simulation
 
I would like to simulate the suction on an airfoil using fluent

the airfoil diagram is shown below, there is a suction slot which the sucked air flows through that leads to the low-pressure cavity which causes the suction.
https://studentcommunity.ansys.com/c...&upscale=false
The idea is to induce high energy turbulent mixing in the boundary layer flow and delay/prevent flow separation, thereby preventing stall

How do I simulate this environment in ANSYS Fluent.

Thanks:)

Dronzer April 22, 2020 04:24

Hi,

Can you explain a bit about the simulation? I am working on the simulation of boundary layer suction as well. Did you try it with a boundary condition on the airfoil surface rather than modeling the slot?
Your suggestions will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Akin-iii April 22, 2020 15:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dronzer (Post 766851)
Hi,

Can you explain a bit about the simulation? I am working on the simulation of boundary layer suction as well. Did you try it with a boundary condition on the airfoil surface rather than modeling the slot?
Your suggestions will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Yh, that's exactly what I did instead.
I was relatively new to the concept of suction control and hadn't really explored all possible avenues.
I eventually created a suction boundary

Dronzer April 22, 2020 21:41

Thank you! Have a few more simple questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Akin-iii (Post 766940)
Yh, that's exactly what I did instead.
I was relatively new to the concept of suction control and hadn't really explored all possible avenues.
I eventually created a suction boundary

Hi Akin

Many thanks for the reply.

Can you please answer a few more questions?
1) Did you try blowing simulations also?
2) The boundary conditions for suction and blowing are pressure outlet and velocity inlet, respectively, am I right?
3) Is it possible to do the simulations at steady-state conditions, or transient settings are necessary?

Akin-iii April 23, 2020 04:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dronzer (Post 766969)
Hi Akin

Many thanks for the reply.

Can you please answer a few more questions?
1) Did you try blowing simulations also?
2) The boundary conditions for suction and blowing are pressure outlet and velocity inlet, respectively, am I right?
3) Is it possible to do the simulations at steady-state conditions, or transient settings are necessary?

Hi
to answer your questions
1) No, I only carried out suction simulations as per the objectives of my project.

2) Yes, you're right. You can also use mass flow BCs as well, but using velocity or pressure BCs is most common. In my case, I specified a velocity boundary condition normal to the suction slot/surface
However, I must warn you that the use of a pressure bc at the outlet (suction) will lead to unstable results (as I painstakingly found out) so I'll post a link to another thread on this forum to give an idea of the best blowing and suction combination to use. (If these are the operating parameters of your simulation)
https://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/ma...n-problem.html

3) You can carry out simulations in steady-state and vary the inlet velocity to simulate a change in the Angle of attack, but for a dynamic stall, the simulations have to be transient

Dronzer April 23, 2020 04:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akin-iii (Post 766990)
Hi
to answer your questions
1) No, I only carried out suction simulations as per the objectives of my project.

2) Yes, you're right. You can also use mass flow BCs as well, but using velocity or pressure BCs is most common. In my case, I specified a velocity boundary condition normal to the suction slot/surface
However, I must warn you that the use of a pressure bc at the outlet (suction) will lead to unstable results (as I painstakingly found out) so I'll post a link to another thread on this forum to give an idea of the best blowing and suction combination to use. (If these are the operating parameters of your simulation)
https://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/ma...n-problem.html

3) You can carry out simulations in steady-state and vary the inlet velocity to simulate a change in the Angle of attack, but for a dynamic stall, the simulations have to be transient

Hi Akin,

Thanks a lot! I will keep your advice in mind.
It is very kind of you.


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