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Dounia November 21, 2019 16:13

thermal expansion coefficient in FLUENT
 
Hello everyone,

my study case is transient natural convection in which I'm using boussinisq density in air property, the problem is in the thermal expansion coefficient.

-I search online, and I found a value of 0.0032 (1/k) for air.
-but I found a tutorial video in YouTube that use 0.036 (1/k),
-when I'm using a value of 0.00032(1/k) I found good results.
so my question is! is it logical if I use 0.00032 ?

and how can I know the right value in my case?

I'll be so grateful for any comments or answers.

Best wishes,

Dounia

LuckyTran November 21, 2019 17:07

For ideal gases, you have \beta = \frac{1}{T} (see Thermal expansion). You can use more real properties if you like.

BryceLos July 29, 2020 03:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckyTran (Post 750409)
For ideal gases, you have \beta = \frac{1}{T} (see Thermal expansion). You can use more real properties if you like.

Hi LuckyTran, I am using NIST real gas model in fluent and I want to know how to access the thermal expansion coefficients via UDF?

Many thanks,
Bryce

AlexanderZ July 29, 2020 05:07

I'm not sure if there is predefined in UDF macro to get thermal coef value

what you can do is:
1. get thermal coef value using scheme, write it to any variable
(to get this variable you may use TUI commands and pick-a-real command.
On the other hand, there should be a scheme name of variable for thermal coef which I don't know)
2. read this variable in UDF

BryceLos January 9, 2021 03:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexanderZ (Post 779049)
I'm not sure if there is predefined in UDF macro to get thermal coef value

what you can do is:
1. get thermal coef value using scheme, write it to any variable
(to get this variable you may use TUI commands and pick-a-real command.
On the other hand, there should be a scheme name of variable for thermal coef which I don't know)
2. read this variable in UDF

Hi Alex,

Thanks for your advice, as I searched there is no macro to access the thermal expansion coefficients. However, I can calculate it using matlab via REFPROP (the values versus temperature). Could you give more details about your approach?

Thanks,
Bryce


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