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sajacivil April 10, 2020 10:39

Gravel bedform simulation by Ansys Fluent
 
hello every one ,
I am working on represent flow in open channels containing gravel bed. I have a problem with how gravel is represented in the ansys fluent program. Do I simulate it as a rough surface or a porose media and how is that? I need help in this area because I am new to using ansys and I do not have enough experience in using it,please .

best regards

vinerm April 10, 2020 10:52

Aim of Simulation
 
It depends on the objective of the simulation. If you wish to study flow of water over as well as through the gravel bed, then it has to be treated like a porous zone. If the objective is only to study the flow of water over a gravel bed but affected by the gravel's presence, then you can model it as a rough wall. If you want to study erosion/accretion/movement of gravel, then you have to use multiphase simulation.

sajacivil April 11, 2020 03:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by vinerm (Post 765072)
It depends on the objective of the simulation. If you wish to study flow of water over as well as through the gravel bed, then it has to be treated like a porous zone. If the objective is only to study the flow of water over a gravel bed but affected by the gravel's presence, then you can model it as a rough wall. If you want to study erosion/accretion/movement of gravel, then you have to use multiphase simulation.

Thank you mr.vinerm

I want to study flow over gravel bed and show how the velocity profile change with depth and also study energy dissipation over this bed.
can you help me about this questions,please
how can insert or represent the roughness of open channel in fluent? if you can guide me by vedio on youtube or a pdf about this subject I will be very grateful to you .
which model more proper to used in this study (k-epsilon,k-omega or other model)
how can I insert discharge of flow as an initial condition?

vinerm April 11, 2020 09:29

Flow over rough surface
 
To model flow over a rough surface, you have to use k-\varepsilon model with Standard Wall Function. Only SWF provides option to include wall roughness. This option will be available under Boundary Conditions > Walls.

I could not understand what you mean by initialization of discharge of flow.

sajacivil April 11, 2020 11:53

thank you very much for your response , i work on experimental discharge equal 15 L/sec, i want to know how can simulated that ?

vinerm April 11, 2020 12:02

Discharge
 
That's just a boundary condition. Since the flow is incompressible, you can either use constant velocity or constant mass flow rate at the inlet. During initialization, you can specify if you want full domain to be filled with water or up to a certain height. If you run a steady-state simulation, then it won't matter even if you start with full channel filled with water.


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