CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Software User Forums > ANSYS > FLUENT

frost formation

Register Blogs Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   May 10, 2020, 09:42
Default frost formation
  #1
New Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 16
Rep Power: 14
cscfx is on a distinguished road
Hello,everybody,i want to simulate the process of frost formation at the cooling plate.i use the Euler model,adding a mass transfer source in the two phase interaction.In the Euler multiphase flow model ,the primary phase being the gas (humid air) containing dry air and water vapor and the secondary phase being the solid (ice), and one species transport equation was used to consider the masstransfer between vapour and ice. the following is the udf of define_mass_transfer:
#include "udf.h"
#include "sg_mphase.h"
DEFINE_MASS_TRANSFER(liq_gas_source,cell,thread,fr om_phase_index,from_species_index,to_phase_index,t o_species_index)
{
real hr;
real Wvs; //vapour mass fraction in saturated condition//
real Wv; //vapour mass franction in wet air//
real m_lg_m;
real Pvs;
real Pv;
real Td;

Thread *tf = THREAD_SUB_THREAD(thread,from_phase_index);
Thread *ice = THREAD_SUB_THREAD(thread,to_phase_index);

if(C_T(cell,tf)<=273.15 && C_T(cell,tf)>173.15)
{
Pvs=exp(-5674.5359/C_T(cell,tf)
+6.3925247 -9.677843*pow(10,-3)*C_T(cell,tf)+6.22157*pow(10,-7)*C_T(cell,tf)*C_T(cell,tf)
+2.0747825*pow(10,-9)*C_T(cell,tf)*C_T(cell,tf)*C_T(cell,tf)
+9.484024*pow(10,-13)*C_T(cell,tf)*C_T(cell,tf)*C_T(cell,tf)*C_T(cel l,tf)+
4.1635019*log(C_T(cell,tf)));
}
else if

(C_T(cell,tf)<=473.15 && C_T(cell,tf)>273.15)
{
Pvs=exp(-5.8002206*pow(10,3)/C_T(cell,tf)
+1.3914993-4.8640239*pow(10,-2)*C_T(cell,tf)
-4.1764768*pow(10,-5)*C_T(cell,tf)*C_T(cell,tf)
-1.4452093*pow(10,-8)*C_T(cell,tf)*C_T(cell,tf)*C_T(cell,tf)+6.545967 3*log(C_T(cell,tf)));
}

hr=0.622*Pvs/(101325-Pvs);
Wvs=hr/(1+hr);
Wv=C_YI(cell,mix,0);

if
(C_T(cell,tf)<=273.15)
{
m_lg_m=10.0*C_VOF(cell,thread)*C_R(cell,thread)*Wv *(Wv-Wvs)/Wvs;

}
else if (C_T(cell,tf)>273.15)
{
m_lg_m=0;
}
return (m_lg_m);

}
but there always some errors when the fluent computing, after one step,it stopped. So,there is anybody know how to solve this problem when using DEFINE_MASS_TRANSFER? there is no need to define energy source when using DEFINE_MASS_TRANSFER?
Hope someone can give some addvice,thanks !
cscfx is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   May 11, 2020, 12:44
Default Bugs
  #2
Senior Member
 
vinerm's Avatar
 
Vinerm
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Nederland
Posts: 2,946
Blog Entries: 1
Rep Power: 37
vinerm will become famous soon enough
There are functions that need phase level thread but you have provided mixture level threads, such as, C_YI and C_VOF. A good way to ensure is to go to Contour Plots and then check whether a field, such as, species mass fraction or volume fraction appear under phase or mixture. If it appears for mixture, then use mixture thread else use phase thread. Species mass fractions and volume fractions, both, belong to their own phase threads, so, use ice or tf instead of mix as their argument.

Mass transfer must always be accompanied with other transfer of momentum, energy, etc. However, that is taken care of by single UDF. So, you don't need to do anything extra.

You may not really need this UDF since you can use Icing simulation in Fluent instead of using your own UDF, provided, icing simulation matches your requirement.
__________________
Regards,
Vinerm

PM to be used if and only if you do not want something to be shared publicly. PM is considered to be of the least priority.
vinerm is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   May 12, 2020, 11:32
Smile
  #3
New Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 16
Rep Power: 14
cscfx is on a distinguished road
thanks for your reply. It was really useful. and I want to ask you where I can find the Icing model? or using TUI command to start the model? thanks!
cscfx is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   January 29, 2021, 05:40
Default C_vi
  #4
New Member
 
qntldoql
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 15
Rep Power: 7
qntldoql is on a distinguished road
Hi, I am currently doing a similar simulation (humid air > ice). I was wondering how you fixed your UDF? Currently I am using very similar UDF to your's with different equation. But encountering a problem with FLUENT where the simulation does not begin as it states that the executable is only for post-processing.

May I ask how you addressed this particular section of your UDF run the simulation?

Wv = C_YI(cell,thread,0);

m_lg = gamma* C_VOF(cell, thread) * C_R(cell, thread) * Wv * (Wv - Wvs) / Wv;

Last edited by qntldoql; January 29, 2021 at 17:17.
qntldoql is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   January 27, 2022, 12:30
Default
  #5
New Member
 
Samarth Kathare
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 1
Rep Power: 0
skathare is on a distinguished road
I am modeling a frost formation problem on a cylinder. I am wondering if someone can share their UDF and how to implement it in Fluent?
skathare is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   April 23, 2024, 04:22
Default
  #6
New Member
 
Aneesh
Join Date: Apr 2024
Posts: 3
Rep Power: 3
aneesham75 is on a distinguished road
I am also trying to do the same simulation for the study purpose. It would be helpful
for me if any one send the updated udf code to mail (aneesham7589@gmail.com).
aneesham75 is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Heat of formation in Fluent density based solver at 0 K mkh_sakr FLUENT 0 September 24, 2019 14:31
Enthalpies: Am I confused or is OpenFOAM? (rel. standard vs. enthalpy of formation) KarenRei OpenFOAM Running, Solving & CFD 8 November 10, 2016 19:18
Pressure BCs or Periodic BCs for model of frost on vertical surface? andy.eco FLUENT 2 March 26, 2010 03:02
Frost formation Olo FLUENT 1 May 26, 2009 04:18
Frost Formation on Evaporators Ahmad FLUENT 0 September 5, 2005 14:54


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 20:38.