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cfdkktr May 26, 2020 09:42

Drag Coefficient Convergence/Accuracy Problems
 
Hello,

I am trying to get C_D vs Mach distribution for both finned and finless artillery projectiles with zero angle of attacks. The range for Mach number is from 0 to 4. I am trying to compute the C_D value for every Mach number with increment of ~0.1-0.25. However, I am experiencing quite significant convergence and/or accuracy problems for most of the cases. Although I done research and tried many different mesh and solution setup combinations, the problem is remaining the same.

For this kind of cases what do you suggest as a general technique?

What turbulence model should be implemented?

Which points should be considered as important while meshing? Is a different mesh for each Mach number a must? How to determine the correct y+ values? What geometric detail should be neglected during modelling?

What can be done to get solution converges faster in terms of both calculation time and number of iterations?

I would be very grateful for any help, thank you!

vinerm May 27, 2020 04:36

Mach number
 
For 0-4 Mach, there are three regimes and all required different settings.

1. 0-0.3 is incompressible regime and you can work with constant density fluid. Beyond that, fluid has to be compressible.

2. 0.3 - 1 is compressible but subsonic regime. Actually, 0.9 to 1.1 is considered transonic regime but this one does not really require anything special

3. 1 - 4 is supsersonic regime and would have shocks

As far as modeling is concerned, it has four regimes. Mach 1-2 can be worked with pressure based solver, but beyond that you need density based solver. You will also have to look at Re and the ratio of Ma and Re because that defines Kn. For low Re, laminar flow will work but may require transient simulation. For very high Re, you can work with Euler equations (inviscid). So, there is no single set of conditions that will work with all. You have to setup three to four regimes, each with separate type of mesh, material, boundary and operating conditions, as well as, physical and numerical models. You can use density based solver for all cases but that will be very time-consuming and difficult to converge. Similarly, you can use very fine mesh for all cases but would be an overkill for low Re and low Ma flows.

mahdi-united August 19, 2020 10:15

hi my dear friend
thanks for all helps in past


in simulation of projectile motion, how to calculate Re number?
i need to set the one of the turbulent models and i don't know which one is appropriate
mach number is varied as 0.1 to 3 in my project

i read your post about different regimes and different setups in projectile motion.


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