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yz November 17, 2004 22:27

question about swirling flow
 
Dear all, I had a hard time to model axisymmetric swirling flows. I have a question for people who have done some work in swirling flows, how small the mesh has to be (the manual says the mesh should be very fine)? Is there a criterion for this or just using experiences? Thanks a lot.

yz.

Pratap November 18, 2004 02:59

Re: question about swirling flow
 
it should be based upon y+ values and use mesh optimazation techniques. Pratap

yz November 18, 2004 10:21

Re: question about swirling flow
 
thanks, would you elaborate a little? or are there some material I can read? yz

Pratap November 19, 2004 02:26

Re: question about swirling flow
 
if you read the fluent manual it will clear for you. pratap

cf November 30, 2004 03:57

Re: question about swirling flow
 
In strongly swirling flows you typically have a vortex core near the symmetry axis. In this region the velocity gradients are very large, and accordingly a fine grid is required for adequate resolution. I am sad to say, but the y+ concept does not offer much aid in this context as the primary source of turbulence is not wall bounded, but rather in the centre of the flow. Please, beware though, swirling flows are not modelled well with isotropic turbulence models such as k-eps., k-omega etc.


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