CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Software User Forums > ANSYS > FLUENT

help! grid check error

Register Blogs Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   April 21, 2005, 16:07
Default help! grid check error
  #1
Gary Holland
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Hello there,

i'm hoping someone may be able to offer some advice before i tear my hair out!. i'm just trying to use gambit and fluent for the first time. i've managed to put a grid onto a simple 3d object but everytime i check the grid in the fluent start up section i get a warning saying: "WARNING: non-positive face area exist"

i'd be very grateful if someone could offer some pointers. thanks very much, gary.
  Reply With Quote

Old   April 21, 2005, 19:38
Default Re: help! grid check error
  #2
pUl|
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Is your geometry Axisymmetric?
  Reply With Quote

Old   April 21, 2005, 21:59
Default Re: help! grid check error
  #3
Gary Holland
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
thanks for the reply. It is a flat (very thin) ellipse shaped volume with an inlet and outlet ports situated towards each end, perpendicular to the ellipse. i can manage to get a mesh of some sort, although i keep getting that warning when i try to open it in fluent....
  Reply With Quote

Old   April 22, 2005, 08:36
Default Re: help! grid check error
  #4
pUl|
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
So is it modeled axisymmetric? And if so, is your domain above or below the X-Axis?
  Reply With Quote

Old   April 22, 2005, 09:48
Default Re: help! grid check error
  #5
Jason
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
It's a 3D mesh, correct?

If so then the problem is the quality of your grid. In gambit, go to the volume mesh commands, and click "check mesh"... it looks like a check mark. Then select the volume and it will give some information on the mesh in the transcript window. The last few lines are probably going to say something about "XXX highly skewed elements" and maybe something about "XXX inverted elements". This is a poor quality mesh. Now what you have to do is find the problem area so you can start working out a solution. The icon on the bottom right corner of the screen is the Examine Mesh function. It looks like a yellow grid with a magnifying glass over it. You can play around with the options so they are set to your type of mesh (set display type to "Range", use "3D element" and select the right type of elements" and set Quality Type to "equiangle skew"). Towards the bottom of the examine mesh window are sliders that you can adjust to play around with what range of elements you are looking at, or you can click "Show Worst Element" and this will zoom in on the worst element (depending on the quality type you chose) in the mesh. Once you find where it is, then you can try and see why it's a problem and try to fix it. Once you find the problem and you need help fixing it, feel free to post any information on here and we'll try to help you out.

Hope this helps, and good luck, Jason
  Reply With Quote

Old   April 22, 2005, 10:07
Default Re: help! grid check error
  #6
Gary Holland
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Very many thanks for your help and time guys. I'll try what you've suggested.

thanks again, gary.
  Reply With Quote

Old   April 22, 2005, 11:20
Default Re: help! grid check error
  #7
Gary Holland
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Hi again,

Yes, I followed the steps that you suggested and found the 'worst element'. However, when i check the other 3d boxes (anything other than the cube), the worst element section dissapears? Are these 3d shapes part of the tri/hex etc that were part of the mesh set up? I don't think i'm using the 'examine mesh' window how it should be used as i'm still unsure of how to go about fixing my problem. any more advice would be most welcome! thanks for your time. gary.
  Reply With Quote

Old   April 24, 2005, 22:20
Default Re: help! grid check error
  #8
khairy
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Dear Gary

be patient,cane u send a free hand sketch,or any drawing for the problem with all dimension ,and i will try it for u and send to u all the steps,have a good luck khairy-Egypt
  Reply With Quote

Old   April 25, 2005, 08:08
Default Re: help! grid check error
  #9
Jason
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
As long as your display type is "range" then I've never seen the "worst element" section disappear. Maybe you can only select one element type at a time to view. Which version of Gambit are you using?

When you did the mesh check, did it come up with any highly skewed or inversed elements?

Jason
  Reply With Quote

Old   April 25, 2005, 14:37
Default Re: help! grid check error
  #10
Gary
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
guys, thanks for the help. i followed your advice and also some online tutorials and have managed complete the model. i am now trying the animation.....

thanks again!!! gary.
  Reply With Quote

Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Compile problem ivanyao OpenFOAM Running, Solving & CFD 1 October 12, 2012 10:31
c++ libraries and solver compiling vaina74 OpenFOAM Installation 13 February 3, 2012 18:43
CGNS lib and Fortran compiler manaliac Main CFD Forum 2 November 29, 2010 07:25
UDF: DEFINE_CG_MOTION for vertical jump motion of an electrode! alban Fluent UDF and Scheme Programming 2 June 8, 2010 19:54
critical error during installation of openfoam Fabio88 OpenFOAM Installation 21 June 2, 2010 04:01


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:02.