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September 7, 2007, 08:26 |
For Joe : CFD in a Wankel engine
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Hi Joe, I posted a message on the forum a few months ago for a problem with flow simulation in a Wankel engine. In your answer to me, you sais that you were setting up problems in which you considered flows in such a Wankel engine. Did you succed ? I've been working a lot on the leakage problem between the 3 chambers (dut to the fact that you can't close the volume when you're using dynamic meshing). I found some solutions, but none of them seemed to be really suitable. Now I'm working on only one wankel chamber to try to avoid leakage and close the volume.I was wondering if you've find a way to simulate the flow without inter-chamber leakage ?
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September 7, 2007, 09:02 |
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Like I said before you have to use an artificial, imposed momentum source near the rotor tips to force localised fluid quiescence.
You know where the rotor starts, you know how it moves with time ... so you know where the rotor tips are at any point in time. Ergo, you can define this localised momentum source to prevent inter-chamber leakage. |
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Hi, I am working on wankel engine too. I tried imposing momentum source but it not working. Its always backflowing in the adjacent chamber. On the contrary when I am setting up a similar problem but only with translation not rotation then its working. Do you have any idea what it could be? Please let me know. I can also provide you udf which I wrote for marking the cells for momentum source.
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August 5, 2011, 14:44 |
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Hi to all and apologies for reviving an old thread, hoping that the original posters will be notified by email.
I am trying to model the gas circuit in a Wankel engine, not combustion or anything, just the compression and expansion of the working gas. I cannot figure out the proper UDF to move the rotor CG along the eccentricity path and then rotate the rotor around its CG. I have written a Define CG macro UDF containing the x and y velocity equations found in texts but it seems smth is wrong. Can you please give me some guidance? Best regards, Thanos |
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Could you please explain some details about the method of importing momentum source to sort the gap leakage problem? I am an undergrad and quite new about CFD, although I have successfully modelled the operation. Many thanks |
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March 6, 2012, 11:03 |
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#include "udf.h" #define r -0.0116 /*Eccentricity*/ #define k 57.2727 /*rad to degree*/ #define w 314.16 /*angular velocity in rad/sec*/ /* for grid motion */ DEFINE_CG_MOTION(rotor, dt, vel, omega,time, dtime) { real beta; NV_S(vel, =, 0.0); NV_S(omega, =, 0.0); omega[2] = 314.16; /*angular velocity in rad/sec*/ beta = 942.48; /*angular velocity of rotor in rad/sec*/ vel[0] = -beta*r*sin(beta*time); vel[1] = beta*r*cos(beta*time); vel[2]= 0; } |
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March 6, 2012, 11:10 |
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What I did was to mark the cells at rotor tip while it rotating and use DEFINE_SOURCE to make those marked cells a source which makes relative velocity between rotor tip and marked cells zero.
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Did your model eventually work in terms of sealing the chamers? Have you still got the SOURCE UDF file? Could you please post it? I'm sure it will be very helpful for me. Thank you very much. |
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I have that file somewhere in my external hard disk. I'll look for it and let you know. |
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Thanks a lot for your help. I have another question here. How did you mark the cells around the tips in dynamic mesh(I tried yesterday while the marked cells became unmarked again after the rotor started rotating), Or did you change the orginal mesh to create new zones around the tips? It'd be great and saving a lot of my time if you could please let me have a look at your case files. (My project is due in two weeks and my supervisor said, 'stop the leakage or fail'...) |
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Thanks for being so helpful. I appreciate it. |
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How are you? I have been trying to figure out the way to import the momentum source, however, no progress. I really really need your help. If possible, can I have your email address? I will be very grateful. Thank you very much. |
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how to use udf set the seal in the engine wankel please
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