
[Sponsors] 
June 20, 2008, 18:50 
Periodic boundary condition in 2 directions

#1 
Guest
Posts: n/a

Hi! can anyone anwser me please? i am modeling a rotating channel and i have to define periodic boundary condition in two directions ,one in x and another in z direction , the channel is rotaing around y axes, i can make the 2 different periodic zones , but how can i set the periodic conditions for the both directions? because at the menu Defin/periodic condition i can just set the condition for one direction. thanks


June 21, 2008, 13:18 
Re: Periodic boundary condition in 2 directions

#2 
Guest
Posts: n/a

You should make the 2 seperate periodic boundaries first in the preprocessor, then define each seperate in fluent. You don't supply a direction in fluent just whether it is rotational or translational.
From what I gather your x is rotational, and your z translational. Hope this helps Phil 

June 22, 2008, 06:13 
Re: Periodic boundary condition in 2 directions

#3 
Guest
Posts: n/a

any idea?


June 22, 2008, 06:18 
Re: Periodic boundary condition in 2 directions

#4 
Guest
Posts: n/a

tnx ,but my problem is that , i should give a pressure gradiant in x direction ,but zero pressure gradiant in z direction , i can make the two periodic zones , but in periodic condition theres is nothing to choose one of this zones !and i think when i give a pressure gradiant it will assigned to both zones.


June 22, 2008, 08:04 
Re: Periodic boundary condition in 2 directions

#5 
Guest
Posts: n/a

To be honest I'm unsure what you mean by pressure gradient but it sounds like maybe one of them should be symmetry instead of periodic?


June 23, 2008, 04:37 
Re: Periodic boundary condition in 2 directions

#6 
Guest
Posts: n/a

if you carefully check the panel periodic boundary conditions under define (after you defined the two couples of periodic boundaries) you will see a blank for the specification of the pressure gradient and something (i don't remember actually) for specifying the direction of the pressure gradient


June 24, 2008, 09:29 
Re: Periodic boundary condition in 2 directions

#7 
Guest
Posts: n/a

thanks for your reply , but as i have mentioned before i have to define two seperate periodic boundary conditions one with pressure gradient and another with zero pressure gradient, but in pannel which you mentioned there is no option for choosing the appropriate boundary condition zone ,then i think when i give a pressure gradient it will be set for both periodic zones which is not correct.


June 24, 2008, 13:10 
Re: Periodic boundary condition in 2 directions

#8 
Guest
Posts: n/a

sorry, i did not understood (my poor english) very well, but maybe could works also in your case.
For example, in my turbulent channel flow i have the flow along the positive x axis (streamwise) and the z axis is the transverse direction (the y axis is perpendicular to the walls). If i want the flow goes along the x axis i just put this as direction. The faces perpendicular to the z axis will have just the same gradient that will be parallel to those faces. However this works just in nonrotating channel with the two couples of sides being perpendicular to each other. If your domain is a rectangular channel you could apply a source term to simulate the rotation and use this method to apply periodic boundary conditions. Hope this helps 

August 6, 2015, 03:31 

#9 
New Member
Derek Chung
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 1
Rep Power: 0 
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone knows how to solve this problem as I encounter the same problem. I would like to set translational periodic boundary conditions in the streamwise direction with specified flow rate as well as in the spanwise direction with zero pressure gradient. If I set the periodic conditions for the streamwise direction with a mass flow rate, it sets the same periodic conditions to the other periodic boundary which in this case, the spanwise direction. How do I define two different periodic boundary conditions separately in Fluent? I am relatively new to Fluent. Any advise will be greatly appreciated. 

August 7, 2015, 13:05 

#10 
Senior Member
Lucky Tran
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Orlando, FL USA
Posts: 4,019
Rep Power: 48 
You need to specify the periodic boundary pair with the zero pressure gradient as an interface.


December 8, 2016, 23:51 

#11 
Member
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 31
Rep Power: 0 
Hi Derek, have you solved your problem? I just come across the same problem.


December 9, 2016, 00:21 

#12 
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 493
Rep Power: 14 
In Fluent 17 to define periodicity you just need to create interfaces, activate checkbox that they are periodic, check whether they are rotational or translational and that's all.


December 9, 2016, 03:37 

#13 
Member
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 31
Rep Power: 0 
Thank you for your reply Antanas, I want one periodic BC where mass flow rate is specified to model fully developed flow, and another periodic BC with no pressure drop. But once I define the mass flow rate for one periodic BC, another periodic BC is defined with the same value. It seems they are related to each other. Do you know how to deal with that?


December 9, 2016, 03:51 

#14 
Senior Member
Onur Özcan
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Istanbul/Turkey
Posts: 461
Rep Power: 8 
could you share with your model and show onto where periodic bc's have been defined by yourself ?


December 9, 2016, 06:16 

#15  
Member
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 31
Rep Power: 0 
Quote:
like the picture show, when fully developed, the flow is periodic in two directions, which there is a pressure drop along the flow direction, and no pressure perpendicular to the flow direction. I use the TUI makeperiodic to set these periodic BC, but you can see there is only one periodic condition, it seems once I specified the mass flow rate, the value is given to the periodic BC in both directions. 

December 9, 2016, 06:40 

#16  
Senior Member
Onur Özcan
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Istanbul/Turkey
Posts: 461
Rep Power: 8 
Quote:
Let me put it explicitly, ''c'' (from your screenshot) is inlet of fluid domain, then we need to define as ''wall'' like ''c' ''. we assume that their ID numbers are 9, 12 ,respectively, with TUI command, mesh>modifyzones>makeperiodic periodic zone :9 its shadow zone : 12 then question is : rotational or translational (yes or no) make a periodic : your answer must be ''yes'' Dont forget that 9 and 12 are not bc. They must be ID you should do other one in this way 

December 9, 2016, 06:47 

#17  
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 493
Rep Power: 14 
Quote:


December 10, 2016, 04:17 

#18  
Member
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 31
Rep Power: 0 
Quote:
Now my problem is there is only one "Periodic Condition" dialog box in the Boundary Conditions panel, no metter which periodic BC you are editing. So when I define the mass flow rate for one periodic BC, I think it was attached to all the other periodic BCs. 

December 10, 2016, 04:20 

#19  
Member
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 31
Rep Power: 0 
Quote:
Now my problem is there is only one "Periodic Condition" dialog box in the Boundary Conditions panel, no metter which periodic BC you are editing. So when I define the mass flow rate for one periodic BC, I think it was attached to all the other periodic BCs. Do you have any idea about that? Thanks for your reply. 

December 21, 2016, 21:03 

#20 
Member
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 31
Rep Power: 0 
I guess this problem i.e. model contains periodic boundaries in 2 directions with pressure drop, couldn't be done by Fluent.


Thread Tools  Search this Thread 
Display Modes  


Similar Threads  
Thread  Thread Starter  Forum  Replies  Last Post 
periodic boundary condition.  jaysree  FLUENT  0  December 18, 2007 06:51 
periodic boundary condition?  Sima Baheri  Phoenics  5  October 20, 2007 09:20 
periodic boundary condition  elyyan  FLUENT  4  April 21, 2006 16:30 
periodic boundary condition  ap  CFX  1  March 6, 2006 14:16 
Periodic Boundary Conditions in two directions  david  FLUENT  0  April 1, 2002 07:24 