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Marco Antonelli February 23, 2009 08:36

Troubles with the dpm model
 
Hi, I'm Marco Antonelli and I am researcher at the University of Pisa.

I set up a cluster for parallel computing using Fluent 6.3 and I'm simulating the injection of gasoline inside an engine cylinder. When I used a single pc it ran all ok, but since I've been trying using this cluster, I've this trouble with the injection: after some time steps, the calculation is blocked at the dpm injection advance and does nor proceed, neither giving any error.

Anyone had the same trouble than me?

Thanks

Marco

John S. February 24, 2009 15:40

Re: Troubles with the dpm model
 
Are you running a multiphase simulation?

Marco Antonelli February 25, 2009 02:37

Re: Troubles with the dpm model
 
My simulation is a discrete phase one. I'm injecting gasoline inside an engine cylinder.


John S. February 25, 2009 11:23

Re: Troubles with the dpm model
 
The reason I asked, to quote the 6.2 manaul..

"When tracking particles in parallel, the DPM model cannot be used with any of the multiphase flow models (VOF, mixture, or Eulerian { see Chapter 23: Modeling Multiphase Flows) if the shared memory option is enabled (Section 22.11.9: Parallel Processing for the Discrete Phase Model). (Note that using the message passing option, when running in parallel, enables the compatibility of all multiphase ow models with the DPM model.)"

Marco Antonelli February 26, 2009 02:29

Re: Troubles with the dpm model
 
No, any of these model was used. Moreover, the message passing option is currently used. The strange fact is that the calculation start, but stops after a random number of time steps without an apparently cause.

bye

Marco

giovanni franchello February 28, 2009 19:08

Re: Troubles with the dpm model
 
Do you use wall-film model ? The same happens also to me

Marco Antonelli March 3, 2009 09:24

Re: Troubles with the dpm model
 
Yes, I do. I'm trying to change some parameters about numerics, but I've still got very few results...

If I'll discover something interesting, I'll post it.

bye

Marco

Gian March 3, 2009 11:12

Re: Troubles with the dpm model: collision probl ?
 
I am simulating injection of liquid ammonia (tb=-33 Deg) in tha atmosphere (air + water vapour, 80% humidity). The solver is pressure-based, usteady. Problem time 900 sec, time step=0.25 sec, 150000 cells, 6 node parallel computer. DPM: injected 5 parcels per particle time step=0.05 sec. coupled, unsteady. Boundary: wall-film. I had very big problems: temperature & pressure out of the limits, dpm concentration > 10000kg/m3, extreme jumps in the mass sources, evaporation of droplets with temp. below dew point (??), crash. Despite I eliminate problems in crashes (re-writing the mass & heat transfer routines), FLUENT enters in an infinite loops after the message Advancing DPM Injection ...

I remove the problem by switching off the droplet-collision option !!!

Try it. Gian

PS: now I use wall-jet because with wall-film I had problems in parallel processing like "lost x particles in node y" and consequent mass error


Marco Antonelli March 3, 2009 11:55

Re: Troubles with the dpm model: collision probl ?
 
However, coalescence is a very important matter while simulating injections (especially gasoline injection)...

shaosenlin June 14, 2010 03:48

I have the same qusetion, how did you solve it?
think you!
:confused:

Marta December 7, 2010 09:18

Hi All! Is the wall-film model compatible with combustion models in Fluent?

Thanks a lot in advance!

Marta


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