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jing113cn September 8, 2009 04:35

If my solution is converged ?
 
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I want to use the time-dependant solver to get the steady state. And I also monitor some important parameters, such as temperature, vof...
After some iterations, I found these parameters almost do not change, but the residuals remains at a high value(10-2) and goes flat. I wonder if I my problem is converged ?
The residula and monitor look like this >
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srjp September 9, 2009 08:28

Residuals becoming flat may indicate:
1. Your solution has converged, or
2. This is the minimum residual possible with your current grid.

For further reduction in residuals, you may have to refine or adapt the grid.

delfel September 9, 2009 14:08

Yeah, I agree with srjp. You're going to need to refine your grid. I would recommend plotting contours of mass imbalance (since your continuity residuals didn't converge) and refining where they are high.

-sean

denizen September 10, 2009 01:39

you both wrong.
this is transient solution and if one decrease the time step the residuals will decrease too.
you execute 1 ineration on 1 time step?

-mAx- September 10, 2009 02:03

the continuity residuals are too high.
reduce your time step

srjp September 10, 2009 09:16

Sorry, I thought it was steady state simulation.
May be after frustration of seeing so many flat residuals !!!
Agree with mAx on the timestep reduction.

delfel September 10, 2009 11:00

ditto.

-sean

jing113cn September 11, 2009 02:51

Yes, 1 interation on 1 time step at beginning, because I want save computation time. And then I increase the interations each time step, and the residuals also remain flat.

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Originally Posted by denizen (Post 229075)
you both wrong.
this is transient solution and if one decrease the time step the residuals will decrease too.
you execute 1 ineration on 1 time step?


-mAx- September 11, 2009 03:39

forget 1 iteration per time step
try the default settings, eg: 20 iterations per time step
I would also recommend you to start your unsteady computation from a well converged steady solution

ivanbuz September 11, 2009 17:46

Most likely you are using a too big time-step. The time in your pictures is 2.4e4. Imagine if time step=1e-6, how many steps it will be....

teguhtf September 16, 2009 09:21

Character of success iteration???
 
Hello!!!
I'm a new user in FLUENT. I've read your Post. I wanna know what is the indication that we have success iteration??
I've thought that FLAT graph on the Residual graph is the indication!!!
Am I wrong???:rolleyes:

jing113cn September 17, 2009 04:07

I think when the we get converged solution, the residual will go flat. But at the same time, the residual should fulfill the criterion, such as 10e-4,10e-5...

denizen September 17, 2009 06:59

Flat or not it is no matter. If iteration converged then it is. I think so.

Regards.

teguhtf September 28, 2009 03:29

Is there an equation to prove it?? just to know how much convergence value!!!

denizen September 29, 2009 01:33

there is navier-stokes equation.
and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residua...rical_analysis)

regards.


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