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thanos February 22, 2010 07:01

steady or unsteady is better?
 
Hello to all!

To simulate stall in an airfoil with great accuracy what would give better results? A steady or unsteady solver?

Thanks in advance.

Bernhard February 22, 2010 07:39

If you perform a steady simulation, you will not be able to find any periodic solutions. If this periodicity occurs in your situation, it may become difficult to get a convergent solution with certain discretization schemes. Transient simulations come with a price of course.

thanos February 22, 2010 16:06

The problem i have with steady solution is that there is no stall, the Cl continues to rise! So, i was wandering if an unsteady solver could correctly calculate it.

Goldsstean February 23, 2010 01:55

Solve with unsteady first and then move to steady, it will give better convergence.

thanos February 23, 2010 11:55

what time step should i use and how may iterations per time step?

Goldsstean February 24, 2010 00:12

del t = del x/v

del t= time step
del x= smallest mesh size
v= velocity

or just put time step 0.001 and no. of time step (maximum) and 20 iteration per time step

thanos February 24, 2010 05:32

the smallest mesh size is the distance between the wall and the first cell adjacent to the wall or i understood wrong?

Goldsstean February 24, 2010 05:42

Smallest cell inside the domain.

Converge please! February 24, 2010 05:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by thanos (Post 247090)
what time step should i use and how may iterations per time step?

A general rule for time stepping is:

Timestep = (1/10) * ((average cell size) / (average velocity))



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