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masoudmohammadian March 22, 2014 11:39

Boundary Conditions for a flow in pipes
 
Hi dear friends

What is boundary conditions(inlet and outlet) that we should use in a compressible flow in a pipe and what is your reference? Kindly flow is subsonic.

regards

pudasainee March 23, 2014 07:34

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Originally Posted by masoudmohammadian (Post 481481)
Hi dear friends

What is boundary conditions(inlet and outlet) that we should use in a incompressible flow in a pipe and what is your reference? Kindly flow is subsonic.

regards

You can use either mass flow rate or velocity as inlet boundary condition and relative pressure as outlet boundary condition. But first set your reference pressure in order to use relative pressure.. Hope it helps :)

vishnu_240 March 23, 2014 07:57

For inlet give velocity inlet condition and for outlet pressure outlet

masoudmohammadian March 23, 2014 09:09

Hi dear friend
Is it correct to use velocity when density is not constant? what is your reference of your answer?

masoudmohammadian March 23, 2014 09:11

thanks a lot my friend. I need the reference for your reply such as book, paper,...

vishnu_240 March 23, 2014 10:20

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Originally Posted by masoudmohammadian (Post 481584)
Hi dear friend
Is it correct to use velocity when density is not constant? what is your reference of your answer?

You are asking for incompressible right? if it so then density is constant in that case.
For reference you can read boundary condition section in Fluent manual.

masoudmohammadian March 23, 2014 14:46

Thanks my dear friend
Sorry I made mistake because my flow is compressible

regards

som87 March 24, 2014 00:12

Just a correction, for incompressible flow, density is not constant (atleast, not always).
Our (mu/rho) should be constant.

masoudmohammadian March 24, 2014 01:15

hi dear friend
I didn't get your answer

regards

som87 March 24, 2014 01:27

What I meant to say is:
When you model incompressible flow, density is not always a constant variable. Its the kinematic viscosity(=dynamic viscosity/density) which is constant. For Low Reynolds number, flow most cases, the density'll not vary much.However, when you go to the moderate Re regime, most likely your density'll vary (depending of the fluid property though). So, as long as you keep kinematic viscosity constant, you are in "safe zone". Whereas keeping a constant density may lead to error.

that's all

masoudmohammadian March 24, 2014 01:54

but you know, my flow is compressible with Ma No. about 0.8

som87 March 24, 2014 02:12

I was referring to the other post actually, where it was stated that incompressible flow=constant density..that's all(that's why i used "just a correction" phrase:o)

masoudmohammadian March 24, 2014 02:17

thanks a lot dude and sorry for any inconvenience

RameshK March 24, 2014 12:54

For Compressible flow through a pipe you can give Total Pressure at inlet and static pressure at outlet and from the stagnation static relations we can estimate the flow Mach number or the other way around if you want a particular Mach Number then calculate the relations accordingly with atmospheric pressure as reference.

vishnu_240 March 24, 2014 22:13

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Originally Posted by som87 (Post 481698)
I was referring to the other post actually, where it was stated that incompressible flow=constant density..that's all(that's why i used "just a correction" phrase:o)

But numerically when we solve incompressible flow equation density term will be treated as constant and removed from momentum equations so i told him in terms of CFD(since he is working in it), but when comes to flow physics what u told is correct.

som87 March 24, 2014 22:18

To add to my point:-
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...21999108006748

vishnu_240 March 25, 2014 01:45

OK, i don't think all solvers use this.


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