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Old   September 27, 2007, 16:33
Default Fluid-structure interaction & timescales
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Frank
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Hi Guys,

I'm trying to solve a structure/fluid interatcion problem. There are two parts to my code. The first is an aerodynamic solver that generates aerodynamic forces; the second is a structural component that determines the response of a structure to a given load.

My problem is that, for several reasons I won't bore you all with, the aerodynamic equations are cast with one timescale and the structural equations use another. I know that the standard procedure would be to write both equations in non-dimensional form using the same timescale but for this particular application it isn't an option.

I label physical time 't' and non-dimensional times 'T1' and 'T2'. The aerodynamic code uses a scaling based on the chord-length and the upstream velocity:

T1=(c/U)*t => dT1=(U/c)*dt

The structural component uses a characteristic frequency of the structure 'w' to non-dimensionalise time:

T2=w*t => dT2=w*dt

In my code I select a timestep dT1, evaluate the current aerodynamic conditions and then apply the loads to the structural code. The corresponding 'physical' timestep is dt=(c/U)*dT1; the appropriate timestep for use in the structural component is then given by w*dt=(w*c/U)*dT1.

To recap: I select a value of the non-dimensional timestep T1 and this corresponds to a physical time of dt. The timestep in the strucutural code is scaled in a different way and so I have to work out the value of dT2 that corresponds to the same physical timestep as that used in the aeroelastic solver.

Does anyone see a flaw in what I'm doing here? I'd really appreciate any advice. I have solved unsteady systems before but am worried that I'm perhaps adding in non-physical effects due to the different timescales.

I understand that the best way to deal with a compound problem like this is to recast the equations so that they both have the same time-scaling. One timestep would therefore give consistent results and would make my life a lot easier. In this particular case, however this isn't an option and I'm trying to do the best I can with the information I have.

Many thanks, Frank
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Old   September 27, 2007, 23:57
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Amaz
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I would like to learn how to write the FSI code in order to better understand the theory behind it. I know the concept.Can you teach me how to write the code.

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Old   September 28, 2007, 07:11
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Sorry but no I can't.

The code we're working on is a combination of several people's work. I'm not really confident enough in all the theory to try and teach someone else I'm afraid. There are a lot of people in the forum whom are much better qualified than me and who may be willing to help you though (indeed that's why I posted my message here in the first place).

Hope you find someone more useful than me! Frank

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Old   September 28, 2007, 07:26
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As long as your physical timestep works out to be the same for both domains you will be ok. The only possible, but not likely, issue would be differences in round-off errors for the different domains.
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Old   September 28, 2007, 07:51
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Thanks Peter,

I had hoped that my logic was sound - it gets a bit confusing working everything out on paper!

Thanks very much for your input, Frank
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