# Initial k & epsilon for engine simulation

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 November 26, 2007, 05:32 Initial k & epsilon for engine simulation #1 Tomislav Sencic Guest   Posts: n/a I would like to simulate the combustion in internal combustion engine. What are the initial values (how do I find or calculate them) to set for k and epsilon for the k-epsilon turbolence model? Any information is apreciated

 November 27, 2007, 05:21 Re: Initial k & epsilon for engine simulation #2 Hrvoje Jasak Guest   Posts: n/a Choose k be using 3-5% of the mean velocity as the velocity fluctuation. You can then do k = 3/2 uPrime^2 to get k. For a length-scale, choose a fraction (say a quarter) of your inlet manifold diameter or a bit less of the cylinder diameter if you've got no manifolds - L = 1 cm is a decent size for a car engine. You can then estimate epsilon as: epsilon = Cmu^0.75 k^1.5/L Cmu is (of course) 0.09. In reality it does not matter much what you choose. The whole setup is really a turbulence-making machine (you want good mixing, right?) so the initial field will be quickly replaced by "real" turbulence. When that happens, you can check that your estimated k and epsilon with some more realistic data. Enjoy, Hrv

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