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samraj August 30, 2016 15:35

Mesh generation
 
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Hello all, I have some problems generating mesh for the attached picture. Its a flow simulation model. two inlets flow into a nozzle and the flow out through outlet. The gas from 2nd inlet flows around the 1st inlet and by the exit of 1st inlet, the gas from 2nd inlet mixes and flows out. I tried meshing but the gas from 2nd inlet dont just flow around 1st but just on the top the 1st inlet walls and move to right hand side of the model. Any help or guidance on how to approach the problem would really help me a lot. Thanks very much

FMDenaro August 30, 2016 15:52

and why do you think that the problem is in the mesh?

samraj August 30, 2016 15:54

Hallo,
Thanks for the message. Its because the fluid doesnt seem to be flowing around the first inlet. It just stops before the 1st inlet's top line.

FMDenaro August 30, 2016 15:56

post the mesh picture around the two inlets

mprinkey August 30, 2016 23:50

If you are using mass or velocity inlets, this shouldn't happen--assuming you are using an off-the-shelf CFD code. If you are using pressure inlets, flow reversal at the inlets may occur. The mass/velocity inlets define the face fluxes at the inlets to be in-bound and the flow composition will be fixed based on the BCs. For pressure inlets/outlets, the fluxes at the boundary will computed based on the defined boundary pressure value and the pressure of the cell adjacent to the boundary...that can flow in or out and the composition will be extrapolated from the adjacent cell value (and possibly the cell gradient).

FMDenaro August 31, 2016 03:22

I agree ... it is not possible that the mesh causes such problems ..

samraj August 31, 2016 06:01

I am using velocity, density, pressure and temperature as inlet boundary conditions. Also the tool i am using is LS dyna.

FMDenaro August 31, 2016 06:22

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Originally Posted by samraj (Post 616087)
I am using velocity, density, pressure and temperature as inlet boundary conditions. Also the tool i am using is LS dyna.


Are you modelling a compressible flow problem? consider that for subsonic conditions you cannot set all BC.s as Dirichlet

samraj August 31, 2016 06:27

Hi, i am doing mixing of two gases and combustion of gas mixture and outflow

samraj August 31, 2016 06:34

yes it is compressible due to significant change in density and pressure.

FMDenaro August 31, 2016 06:36

compressible flow with subsonic inlet requires that one condition is from the interior. Do you satisfy that?

samraj August 31, 2016 06:40

He,
I am sorry. i didnt understand you question. did you mean i should set one initial boundary condition from interior?

thanks

FMDenaro August 31, 2016 07:01

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Originally Posted by samraj (Post 616099)
He,
I am sorry. i didnt understand you question. did you mean i should set one initial boundary condition from interior?

thanks

I mean that one BC cannot be fixed as Dirichlet but has to be let free from the interior. This is because of the direction of one characteristic curve (eigenvalue u-a) coming from the interior.
The opposite happens for subsonic outflow.

samraj August 31, 2016 07:02

okay. in this case, i give temp, velocity and density as inputs and dont set pressure value? thanks

FMDenaro August 31, 2016 07:03

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Originally Posted by samraj (Post 616103)
okay. in this case, i give temp, velocity and density as inputs and dont set pressure value? thanks


no at all...if you set density and temperature, you are fixing also pressure!

samraj August 31, 2016 07:12

Oh okay. Would you recómmend how i can approach this problem? i need to evaluate velocity and temperature conditions for my problem.


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