Triggering turbulence in natural convection
Hello
my question is referred to the triggering of turbulence in LES and DNS in natural convection. It is widely studied how to trigger it in forced convection (like sinthetic turbulence, providing momemtum sources, buoyancy terms...), but I would like to know if those methods are valid too for natural convection, or if there are other methods to do that. In my case, I have a natural boundary layer. Turbulence is expected to develop by itself, but it seems it take so much time. I am imposing a fixed heat flux in the wall. Thanks for your attention! Agustin |
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I tried before, but since my incoming flow has a constant temperature, it dissapear quickly. However, I can try to play a bit with it. I was thinking to use a fluctuating heat flux q_w(t) in the wall. At the end of one period, the given heat should be the same, and I start provoking fluctuations close to the wall. Up to know, in 2D and fixed value of q_w it appears a fluctuation, but when I go for a 3D, a beautiful laminar profile appear, so I don't know how to make it turbulent. Thanks for your interest! |
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you should superimpose a disturbance to the initial velocity field and let the BC.s unchanged... if the flow solution dumps the disturbance, it is likely you have too much dissipation (numerical or due to the SGS modelling) |
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I am using a second order upwind for my divergence schemes, but I can move to a centered scheme, if my Peclet is not so big. This is the cause of a big dissipation, isn't it? |
Just be careful. Adding random signals would mean not satisfying the Navier stokes
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1) the noise has a very small amplitude 2) at t=0 you compute the pressure equation with a source term that take into account the perturbed field in order to get pressure gradients that ensure the divergence-free constraint. |
How about putting point vortices at the inlet? By incorporating the Biot-Savart law, there will be an induction of velocities and you will get your fluctuations
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