CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > General Forums > Main CFD Forum

Finite volume method

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Like Tree1Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   February 27, 2017, 22:50
Unhappy Finite volume method
  #1
New Member
 
Shivam Singhal
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 21
Rep Power: 9
Shivam Singhal is on a distinguished road
I am completely new to CFD, and my project based on Finite volume method. I tried lot of online tutorial, notes and some books to learn FVM but couldn't find anyone much useful.

I need urgent help how to start learning FVM and code my problem. Do I have to learn FDM first to learn FVM. Please help me and guide me what is the correct procedure to proceed. Please help me as I am completely new to this field.
Shivam Singhal is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   February 28, 2017, 00:29
Default
  #2
Senior Member
 
piu58's Avatar
 
Uwe Pilz
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Leipzig, Germany
Posts: 744
Rep Power: 15
piu58 is on a distinguished road
An easy to understand book about this i "Computational Fluid dynamics" by John Anderson. There exist scanned versions of this book, which may be downloaded. I don't know, however, whether these are legal.

The book costs only a few books at amazon if you buy a used one.
__________________
Uwe Pilz
--
Die der Hauptbewegung überlagerte Schwankungsbewegung ist in ihren Einzelheiten so hoffnungslos kompliziert, daß ihre theoretische Berechnung aussichtslos erscheint. (Hermann Schlichting, 1950)
piu58 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   February 28, 2017, 08:03
Default
  #3
Senior Member
 
Julio Mendez
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Fairburn, GA. USA
Posts: 290
Rep Power: 18
juliom is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Skype™ to juliom
You don't meet to learn FDM to start working in FVM. However, my opinion is that FDM is easier than FVM, but FVM has important advantages, I.e it forces local conservation. Jhon Anderson textbook is very good but I used the one from Malalasekera and another one from patankar.
Happy computations!!
davidwilcox likes this.
juliom is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   February 28, 2017, 09:13
Default
  #4
Senior Member
 
Filippo Maria Denaro
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 6,768
Rep Power: 71
FMDenaro has a spectacular aura aboutFMDenaro has a spectacular aura aboutFMDenaro has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shivam Singhal View Post
I am completely new to CFD, and my project based on Finite volume method. I tried lot of online tutorial, notes and some books to learn FVM but couldn't find anyone much useful.

I need urgent help how to start learning FVM and code my problem. Do I have to learn FDM first to learn FVM. Please help me and guide me what is the correct procedure to proceed. Please help me as I am completely new to this field.

The basic of fluid mechanics starts from the Reynolds transport theorem. From that, we derive the integral form of the equations. Assuming strong continuity we can express the differential form of the equations.
Following this steps, you see that FVM are natural consequence of the physical balance in the integral formulation. FDM are then a step applied to the differential form.
I suggest also the book of Peric & Ferziger for the basic issue. The book of Leveque is very good for FVM applied to hyperbolic equations
FMDenaro is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   February 28, 2017, 09:30
Default
  #5
Senior Member
 
Julio Mendez
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Fairburn, GA. USA
Posts: 290
Rep Power: 18
juliom is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Skype™ to juliom
Professor Denaro explanations is perfect. Leveque's book is quite difficult to find in amazon but that books is among the best I have read. I strongly recommend that book too.
juliom is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 6, 2017, 11:28
Default
  #6
New Member
 
Mehul Parmar
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: India
Posts: 15
Rep Power: 9
mehul020892 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by juliom View Post
You don't meet to learn FDM to start working in FVM. However, my opinion is that FDM is easier than FVM, but FVM has important advantages, I.e it forces local conservation. Jhon Anderson textbook is very good but I used the one from Malalasekera and another one from patankar.
Happy computations!!
Give me detailed title of books you used

Sent from my YU5010 using CFD Online Forum mobile app
mehul020892 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 6, 2017, 11:32
Default
  #7
Senior Member
 
Julio Mendez
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Fairburn, GA. USA
Posts: 290
Rep Power: 18
juliom is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Skype™ to juliom
https://www.valorebooks.com/textbook...&date=03/05/17


http://www.ewp.rpi.edu/hartford/~ern...NHTFF-1980.pdf
juliom is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 6, 2017, 11:37
Default
  #8
New Member
 
Mehul Parmar
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: India
Posts: 15
Rep Power: 9
mehul020892 is on a distinguished road
Dear first link is not working said forbidden

Sent from my YU5010 using CFD Online Forum mobile app
mehul020892 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 6, 2017, 11:41
Default
  #9
Senior Member
 
Julio Mendez
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Fairburn, GA. USA
Posts: 290
Rep Power: 18
juliom is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Skype™ to juliom
Suffices with writing in google MALALASEKERA CFD TEXTBOOK and you will read a lot of information about his books.
juliom is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 6, 2017, 11:50
Default
  #10
New Member
 
Mehul Parmar
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: India
Posts: 15
Rep Power: 9
mehul020892 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by juliom View Post
Suffices with writing in google MALALASEKERA CFD TEXTBOOK and you will read a lot of information about his books.
Thanks a lot

Sent from my YU5010 using CFD Online Forum mobile app
mehul020892 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 6, 2017, 11:51
Default
  #11
Senior Member
 
Julio Mendez
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Fairburn, GA. USA
Posts: 290
Rep Power: 18
juliom is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Skype™ to juliom
No problem happy computations!..
juliom is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 6, 2017, 12:34
Default
  #12
New Member
 
Shivam Singhal
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 21
Rep Power: 9
Shivam Singhal is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by juliom View Post
Professor Denaro explanations is perfect. Leveque's book is quite difficult to find in amazon but that books is among the best I have read. I strongly recommend that book too.
http://dlia.ir/Scientific/e_book/Sci...is_/007823.pdf

Are you talking about this book?

what is Professor Denaro explanation, can u give me some link for reference?
Shivam Singhal is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 6, 2017, 12:38
Default
  #13
Senior Member
 
Julio Mendez
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Fairburn, GA. USA
Posts: 290
Rep Power: 18
juliom is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Skype™ to juliom
I think he refereed to https://books.google.com/books/about...page&q&f=false

I already purchased the one I pasted. The other one your refereed to is for hypersonic flows which is a subdivision of flows type; compressible flows with Mach number greater than 5.

I may be wrong about the book that Professor Denaro suggested; but the one I suggest is very good for FDM.
juliom is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 6, 2017, 12:40
Default
  #14
Senior Member
 
Filippo Maria Denaro
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 6,768
Rep Power: 71
FMDenaro has a spectacular aura aboutFMDenaro has a spectacular aura aboutFMDenaro has a spectacular aura about
As we are talking about FVM, the reference of the LeVeque book is
https://depts.washington.edu/clawpack/book2/sample.pdf
FMDenaro is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 6, 2017, 12:41
Default
  #15
Senior Member
 
Filippo Maria Denaro
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 6,768
Rep Power: 71
FMDenaro has a spectacular aura aboutFMDenaro has a spectacular aura aboutFMDenaro has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shivam Singhal View Post
yes, this is correct
FMDenaro is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 6, 2017, 12:43
Default
  #16
New Member
 
Shivam Singhal
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 21
Rep Power: 9
Shivam Singhal is on a distinguished road
Thanks, but my work is completely focussed on FVM as my prof suggested, u working on FDM or FVM?
Shivam Singhal is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 6, 2017, 12:46
Default
  #17
New Member
 
Shivam Singhal
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 21
Rep Power: 9
Shivam Singhal is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by FMDenaro View Post
yes, this is correct
Thank you proff. for the information, Can you also help me with this?

As I am new to CFD, I would like to know, what is flow solver?

What are different parts of flow solver, Please explain in brief and suggest some study material.
Shivam Singhal is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 6, 2017, 12:50
Default
  #18
Senior Member
 
Filippo Maria Denaro
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 6,768
Rep Power: 71
FMDenaro has a spectacular aura aboutFMDenaro has a spectacular aura aboutFMDenaro has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shivam Singhal View Post
Thank you proff. for the information, Can you also help me with this?

As I am new to CFD, I would like to know, what is flow solver?

What are different parts of flow solver, Please explain in brief and suggest some study material.

What is your goal? If you want to be just a CFD code user, I suggest to read the Fluent tutorial and user guide. Alternatively, OpenFOAM can be read

http://www.openfoam.com/documentatio...rd-solvers.php
FMDenaro is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 14, 2017, 09:11
Default
  #19
New Member
 
Shivam Singhal
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 21
Rep Power: 9
Shivam Singhal is on a distinguished road
Respected Sir, I have to write CFD solver for 3D compressible viscous Navier stokes equation in FORTRAN 90. Have to use FVM for unstructured grid .. Please help
Shivam Singhal is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 14, 2017, 09:14
Default
  #20
Senior Member
 
Julio Mendez
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Fairburn, GA. USA
Posts: 290
Rep Power: 18
juliom is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Skype™ to juliom
This is a quite challenging task to be explained in this forum. My recommendation is to use Andersons Textbook, Computational Fluid Dynamics The Basics With Applications. He does not use FV, but still will be very helpful, since the book has a lot of subroutines.
juliom is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply

Tags
cfd, fortran code, fvm


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
how to set periodic boundary conditions Ganesh FLUENT 15 November 18, 2020 06:09
The aspect ratio of the volume elements in Finite Volume Method CharlieTan84 Main CFD Forum 3 August 28, 2012 02:34
[blockMesh] BlockMesh FOAM warning gaottino OpenFOAM Meshing & Mesh Conversion 7 July 19, 2010 14:11
ALE in finite volume method littlelz Main CFD Forum 5 June 21, 2003 12:50
finite volume method for CFD analysis of 2D blunt body Aditya Vaze Main CFD Forum 1 January 19, 2000 13:55


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:32.