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Old   August 28, 2017, 07:18
Question Model dimentsions when using cyclic boundary conditions
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Hello together,

According to de Villiers (2006), when using cyclic boundary condition in a plane channel flow the model dimensions should be restricted to a minimum of 4h*2h*2h length units in stream-wise and span-wise directions. This is supposed to ensure that the turbulence structures of the flow fit into the domain.

Now, my domain resembles a plane channel flow, but is only bounded by one plane (the lower boundary in an implementation of a solid topography) and my top boundary holds a slip condition. Furthermore, due to the scale of my domain (4*2*2 µm) i do not observe any turbulence of the flow.

Question: When using cyclic boundary conditions for my case, do i need to stick to the above given restrictions to achieve a meaningful result, or do the dimension restrictions only apply to simulation which are supposed to simulate turbulence?

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yes, the dimensions are evaluated for turbulent structures..in your case I think that such a low scale drive to a laminar flow
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your flow is certainly going to be laminar at those scales, so there should be no such restriction when solving a periodic domain. In fact, why do you want to CFD this? You could just take a 2-D (or 1-D, if you a have a wide channel) model from what I read, perhaps even an analytic solution.
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Dear CeesH,

the simulation is based on a 3D topography of a ceramic material after a dissolution experiment. The surface itself has a resolution of a few nanometers. We are investigating the near wall flow to determine if, on this scale, the surface roughness has an influence onto the flow. Trapping of the fluid within the pore space due to the formation of eddies is of great interest. At a later stage we aim to calculate the residence of our fluid and combine the information with a chemical model to improve the estimations of our lab experiments.

/edit: And yes, the flow is definitely laminar.
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